Lavabit abruptly shuts down

Post by gkoz » Thu, Aug 08, 2013, 11:22 PM UTC

__alexs wrote: post #106

RyanZAG wrote: post #24

I'm in the process of moving any Saas offerings I use off USA-affiliated companies, but it's actually more difficult than I first thought. I believe there might even be a very profitable market in simply duplicating the functionality of Saas offerings at a higher price with security/privacy guarantees in Germany/HK/etc. Might be the next hot business to be in? You'd be surprised as to the number of people seeking alt…

> I'm in the process of moving any Saas offerings I use off USA-affiliated companies, but it's actually more difficult than I first thought. You should try finding a SSL cert retailer that's outside of the US. The only ones I could find that would actually sell me certs without a phone call charged at least $200 for a basic certificate. https://swisssign.com/en were the most sensible looking ones I could find.

Post by adrianwaj » Thu, Aug 08, 2013, 11:28 PM UTC

lmkg wrote: post #15

For the unfamiliar: Lavabit was a webmail service, that (claimed to) encrypt emails in such a way that they literally did not have access to the content stored on their own servers. The linked email would lend some credence to those claims. It was originally designed in contrast to gmail scanning your email for targeted advertising, but my imperfect memory says that their system should also have been resilient to "we…

Post by eightyone » Thu, Aug 08, 2013, 11:35 PM UTC

javert wrote: post #348

javajosh wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> we're taking anti-corrective action instead of corrective action at every step That's not true. The Congress almost defunded the NSA recently. It was a far closer thing than anyone in the establishment suspects. In the end, we are a country that values it's privacy, values small government, and we'll assert that sooner or later. It may be later. But hey, it took a long time for us to figure out slavery, women's rig…

Maybe there will be a turnaround, but given that the education system has long been (and continues to be) controlled by Progressives, it doesn't seem that likely to me. But yes, the USA is the only nation founded on the principles of individual freedom, and many people remember that, so there is a chance.

Post by wissler » Thu, Aug 08, 2013, 11:40 PM UTC

dkulchenko wrote: post #138

This is infuriating, and the worst part is that a clear solution isn't in sight. Sure, we can fight this in the courts, and a few secret programs might get shut down, but operations will just continue under a different name. We can encrypt our data, move our services and data offshore, but that just paints a big target on our heads - doesn't actually address the fundamental issue. This is supposed to be a democracy,…

Post by babby » Thu, Aug 08, 2013, 11:41 PM UTC

adrianwaj wrote: post #433

lmkg wrote: post #15

For the unfamiliar: Lavabit was a webmail service, that (claimed to) encrypt emails in such a way that they literally did not have access to the content stored on their own servers. The linked email would lend some credence to those claims. It was originally designed in contrast to gmail scanning your email for targeted advertising, but my imperfect memory says that their system should also have been resilient to "we…

"encrypt emails in such a way that they literally did not have access to the content stored on their own servers" how is that possible? I'm curious to know as to how they achieved that technically. I mean if the user is reading an email in their browser, then it would've had to have been created on the server first.