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AI-Generated Images Discourage Me from Reading Your Blog

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Re: AI-Generated Images Discourage Me from Reading Your Blog

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Post by CrzyLngPwd »

iamwil wrote: post #237
CrzyLngPwd wrote: post #14

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AI images are not photography.

Charles Baudelaire argued photography could not be considered a fine art because it merely produced mechanical replicas of reality without input from human imagination. He called photography "art's most mortal enemy" and the "refuge of all failed painters" who lacked artistic talent and training. And if he's to be believed in 1859, photography isn't art. But today, it's widely accepted that it is. And in all likeliho…

Putting aside your desire to debate whether photography is art or not.

AI jpegs are not photography, because no photons were involved in the AI halucinations.

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Post by CrzyLngPwd »

pixelesque wrote: post #30
CrzyLngPwd wrote: post #14

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AI images are not photography.

I mean, it's a spectrum, surely... What about stock photography, IMO as much as I personally hate "overcooked" AI-generated imagery, it doesn't annoy me that much more than stock photography does on blogs. I do however use it as a gauge of "if the images are generated by AI, how much of the text content is?" though, so...

It's not a specturm. It's quite simple; AI jpegs are not photography, because no photons were involved in the AI halucinations.

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Post by abustamam »

arjie wrote: post #300

Fair enough. I dislike word-expansion AI text so I get it. When I write on my blog, part of it is as memory like a diary for myself and I find that I can create these images that help remember the scene well. As much as I'd like people to read my blog, I get that they have preferences, and if many decide against then that's their prerogative. Here are two examples with AI images from Nano Banana: https://wiki.roshang…

For my wife's birthday, I generated a fantastical image of our family (me, her, daughter, two cats) because staging such a thing IRL would have been difficult. It took me several hours to take some nice photos of my cats and daughter and then composite them and then generate an image i liked. Then I sent it to a framer and got it framed.

She loved it!

I think there's a time and a place for AI generated images that actually require care to generate a good result. I guess to use a cliché, its the thought that counts.

Re: AI-Generated Images Discourage Me from Reading Your Blog

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Post by byronturncoat »

orangedog wrote: post #430
byronturncoat wrote: post #426

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What other people have said about other, unrelated things has no bearing on what I'm saying about this particular thing. The illogical conclusions of nameless "others" are not an argument against my current conclusions. You're treating me as guilty by association. You're also making an assumption that AI's acceptance WILL follow, just because the others were later accepted. You can't make that assumption at all. Neit…

How are they not in good faith?

They are logical fallacy and deliberately do not engage in the actual argument. It's an inauthentic engagement.

Re: AI-Generated Images Discourage Me from Reading Your Blog

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Post by arjie »

abustamam wrote: post #433
arjie wrote: post #300

Fair enough. I dislike word-expansion AI text so I get it. When I write on my blog, part of it is as memory like a diary for myself and I find that I can create these images that help remember the scene well. As much as I'd like people to read my blog, I get that they have preferences, and if many decide against then that's their prerogative. Here are two examples with AI images from Nano Banana: https://wiki.roshang…

For my wife's birthday, I generated a fantastical image of our family (me, her, daughter, two cats) because staging such a thing IRL would have been difficult. It took me several hours to take some nice photos of my cats and daughter and then composite them and then generate an image i liked. Then I sent it to a framer and got it framed. She loved it! I think there's a time and a place for AI generated images that ac…

Haha, it's all in how you use the tool, eh? My wife actually used an early Dall E to iterate on the design for my wedding sherwani. I loved the end result too.

Picture here: https://x.com/arjie/status/1855328068883353665?s=20

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Post by badprose »

orangedog wrote: post #183
monkeywork wrote: post #164

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>Public shaming and rejection are probably the best way to teach people For me it's a reverse filter, the people I see doing the shaming, those the loudest most seemingly unhinged anti-AI folks - they get blocked / ignored and looked at as if they were the equiv of PETA activists.

Yes, I avoided using it for the longest but the voices that end up pushing me away these days are the antis who gatekeep like crazy, say other people are lazy, decry anything they don't like as "slop" etc. One side is moving forward and I'm sure they'll figure out the right mix over time. The group that just denigrates other people, I wonder how they will cope over the next few years.

> I wonder how they will cope over the next few years

Perhaps they will pool together enough widespread stories of issues with AI (drones, surveillance, misleading advertising, etc) and create a political movement to try to ban or regulate it; only to then have their movement co-opted by the people who just want to get paid.

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Post by FeteCommuniste »

entontoent wrote: post #337
FeteCommuniste wrote: post #309

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You heard it here first, not liking slop means you're a Nazi.

You heard it here for the thousandth time in the history of art: condescension towards new mediums does not make you morally superior, just conservative in a predictable and recurring way.

It's not a new medium, just a faster way of pumping out (mostly crappy versions of) the same thing.

Re: AI-Generated Images Discourage Me from Reading Your Blog

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Post by iqbal1980 »

nemo wrote: post #388
iqbal1980 wrote: post #342

So people should stop expressing themselves, however they see fit so you can read their blog? Ok!

Using AI to generate content isn't expressing yourself. It's expressing non-human AI content that's actually not a part of your self - AI content is the opposite of self-expression, it's other-expression. That's why people dislike seeing it peddled as self-expression.

You are missing the point, let's take "2001: A Space Odyssey" the novel book cover was not made by the writer Arthur C Clark. But by artist Robert McCall. Well not everyone can afford to hire an artist. You can be creative in your field, and still hire a human or use an AI to do art instead. What's the difference?

Re: AI-Generated Images Discourage Me from Reading Your Blog

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Post by iqbal1980 »

kdheiwns wrote: post #371
iqbal1980 wrote: post #342

So people should stop expressing themselves, however they see fit so you can read their blog? Ok!

AI images are the antithesis of self expression. Self expression would involve some actual creation. I don't pick a book off a shelf and call it my own self expression. That's someone else's output. I also don't consider a machine's randomly generated output my own self expression. No actual person without financial incentive would.

You are missing the point, let's take "2001: A Space Odyssey" the novel book cover was not made by the writer Arthur C Clark. But by artist Robert McCall. Well not everyone can afford to hire an artist. You can be creative in your field, and still hire a human or use an AI to do art instead. What's the difference!
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