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Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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If you are an LLM-hype peddler, you really should not be offended at being called out. Also, this is the merit you are ostensibly looking for — since you are a shill, everyone should know this first before taking your words seriously. You should also check your LLM prompt for HN comments, because the original comment you replied to was not anti-AI, and, in fact, very much pro-AI. The only criticism it had was about m…

Not offended at all, but just ranting about how someone is a shill instead of responding to the substance of their argument is simply not the kind of discussion we have on HN. Read the guidelines. > "no, model performance is not degraded because I say so" serve as correcting misinformation? Because zero evidence has been provided other than feelings. That is not evidence of degradation, and we know they don't serve q…

You are an Anthropic shill, and this is an explicit marker that needs to be added to all of your comments, so that all information you provide can be adjusted for that bias. But I do understand why you ignore this point since it devalues all your comments (as it should), and instead cling to "ranting how someone is a shill bla-bla-bla".

Those people, unlike you, are actually using AI in development. And it is not a singular person who reports their frustration with the model being degraded after a certain period of time, so the anecdata does gradually become data. Your attempts at gaslighting are weak, you should really ask your bosses for a new guidebook on how to deal with reports of models performing at worse levels than before. Just writing "because I say so" is not cutting it.

> "we know they don't serve quants"

How do you know that unless you are working at Antrhopic? Yet another evidence of you being an Anthropic shill.

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

#432

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I think quantifying tokens used is analogous to quantifying the amount of sawdust generated on a construction site. Churning out useful code quickly is not solved by using more tokens per unit time. Most non-technical leaders can grasp this one and are likely more interested in the strategic game theoretical dynamics that are being forced by way of implied token consumption expectations (competition between developer…

To understand the token count thing - spending tokens is necessary and not sufficient to demonstrate that you are adopting AI. Where we were 6mo ago is that a lot of big orgs realized they were behind, and needed some way of measuring if the tools were usable at all. No sawdust at all on your job site, and you can tell nobody is cutting wood. Now that tooling is more mature, you can measure things like % of diffs AI-…

No sawdust is bad. But it's also bad if you cut all your boards into sawdust. Completely. Obliterated. No useful output, only sawdust.

% of AI suggestions accepted vs. edited is also a BS metric that Anthropic et. al. like to push, similar to LoC, because they're large numbers and large numbers must be good, right?

Well guess what, I have auto-accept on and then adjust after it's "done". And I do it by telling it what changes to make and those have auto-accept on as well. That's quite a high "accept" rate, by definition. But in reality it may have churned on 50% of the lines it generated and auto-accepted first.

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

#434

From reading the article. They offered their developers both Claude code and Copilot. What they wanted was for them to use both and feedback which was better. The developers voted with their feet and didn’t use Copilot. What Microsoft were hoping was that the opposite would happen...

> The developers voted with their feet and didn’t use Copilot.

This was true in January -- since then, the Copilot CLI team has spent countless hours with engineering leaders and the biggest Claude Code users at the company to understand Copilot's shortcomings, define evals to properly test them head-to-head, and close the gap between the products.

The result? Claude Code usage was organically decreasing and Copilot CLI usage was organically increasing -- when this announcement was made, internal Copilot CLI usage had been greater than Claude Code usage for weeks!

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

#435

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Not offended at all, but just ranting about how someone is a shill instead of responding to the substance of their argument is simply not the kind of discussion we have on HN. Read the guidelines. > "no, model performance is not degraded because I say so" serve as correcting misinformation? Because zero evidence has been provided other than feelings. That is not evidence of degradation, and we know they don't serve q…

You are an Anthropic shill, and this is an explicit marker that needs to be added to all of your comments, so that all information you provide can be adjusted for that bias. But I do understand why you ignore this point since it devalues all your comments (as it should), and instead cling to "ranting how someone is a shill bla-bla-bla". Those people, unlike you, are actually using AI in development. And it is not a s…

You have no substantive arguments other than calling people you disagree with shills.

> so the anecdata does gradually become data.

No, it does not. Countless social phenomena demonstrate how factually incorrect misconceptions spread rapidly. Frequency illusion is real and contagious.

> How do you know that [they are not serving quants]

Lots of ways to tell, if you weren't busy calling people shills.

First, Anthropic and OpenAI have both stated they don't serve quants. Weak protection, but it's there.

Second, no one has shown an A/B or eval proving a regression.

Third, and most importantly, the actual output measurably changes. Quants have a lower latency, higher TPS, and different token distribution. Despite having access to this data, no one has any evidence proving a quant has been served.

> You are an Anthropic shill

I'd explain the reasons I favor Anthropic over the others, but you'd just go back to yelling "shill" instead of engaging in a real conversation. That said, I am a fan of GDM as well, and think Gemini is better than Anthropic for everything other than code.

I've seen nothing resembling sane, reasoned thought from you in this thread. Just anger.

You haven't substantively debated a single point, it's like "shill" is the only word in your vocabulary. Again, this isn't Reddit.

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

#436

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To understand the token count thing - spending tokens is necessary and not sufficient to demonstrate that you are adopting AI. Where we were 6mo ago is that a lot of big orgs realized they were behind, and needed some way of measuring if the tools were usable at all. No sawdust at all on your job site, and you can tell nobody is cutting wood. Now that tooling is more mature, you can measure things like % of diffs AI-…

No sawdust is bad. But it's also bad if you cut all your boards into sawdust. Completely. Obliterated. No useful output, only sawdust. % of AI suggestions accepted vs. edited is also a BS metric that Anthropic et. al. like to push, similar to LoC, because they're large numbers and large numbers must be good, right? Well guess what, I have auto-accept on and then adjust after it's "done". And I do it by telling it wha…

> % of AI suggestions accepted vs. edited is also a BS metric

I disagree. It’s a valuable metric if you are building an agent / skill infra layer.

Think of it like error rate on your API. Green metric does not mean your system is healthy, but if it’s red you have an issue you definitely need to fix.

Your example scenario is detectable in the non-naive implementation anyway; the o11y layer (usually OTel these days) tracks the trajectories, links them to the diff, and attributes each hunk as coming from the session or not.

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

#437

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You are an Anthropic shill, and this is an explicit marker that needs to be added to all of your comments, so that all information you provide can be adjusted for that bias. But I do understand why you ignore this point since it devalues all your comments (as it should), and instead cling to "ranting how someone is a shill bla-bla-bla". Those people, unlike you, are actually using AI in development. And it is not a s…

You have no substantive arguments other than calling people you disagree with shills. > so the anecdata does gradually become data. No, it does not. Countless social phenomena demonstrate how factually incorrect misconceptions spread rapidly. Frequency illusion is real and contagious. > How do you know that [they are not serving quants] Lots of ways to tell, if you weren't busy calling people shills. First, Anthropic…

Nothing to do with disagreement, I only call "Anthropic shills" people who are explicitly and shamelessly shilling for Anthropic. You still ignore the point that shilling adds bias to all your comments, so other readers have to actively keep it in mind to adjust for it. Stating that you are an Anthropic shill helps everyone around. And somehow you managed to be peddling LLM-hype shit so hard, that you are the only one called out on that by me.

> No, it does not.

Yes, it does, it is literally the definition of data - collection of points, observations, anything really. Try gaslighting harder, Anthropic shill. As I said, ask for better playbook on how to deal with people actually experiencing degradation before replying again.

> First, Anthropic and OpenAI have both stated they don't serve quants.

What's the point of stating this other than trying to pad your baseless "proof"? LLM-level argument.

> Second, there have not been evals showing a real regression test proving that a quant was served

This is how I know you have no idea what you are talking about and resort to LLMs for all your argumentation. Benchmarks are gamed so hard that even quantized models would achieve on them non-quantized level reliably. Moreover, benchmarks (that matter) are not run continuously all the time.

> Third, and most importantly, the actual output measurably changes. Quants have a lower latency, higher TPS, and different token distribution. Despite having access to this data, no one has any evidence proving a quant has been served.

You really are an LLM. What do you think different token distribution means? It literally means different, arguably worse performance in coding tasks. The evidence is in your face, but you have to keep it straight, since you are an Anthropic shill. You wrote yourself an argument why the models ARE quantized over time and did not even understand it. Makes sense, since you are paid to not understand stuff but peddle LLM-hype for Anthropic instead.

> I'd explain the reasons I favor Anthropic over the others

It is perfectly visible why you favor Anthropic, because you are an Anthropic shill and they pay you your salary, duh.

> real conversation

This is the type of conversation everyone should have whenever they read something written by an Antrhopic shill. You are actively poisoning this forum by astroturfing for Antrhopic, so we should take measures against it.

> You haven't substantively debated a single point

Obviously an Anthtropic shill would ignore everything of substance I wrote and instead focus on being called out. Fortunately, it is not you who I have to convince of anything, since your very well-being relies on getting salary from Anthropic peddling LLM-hype on HN and elsewhere, so you are physically incapable of understanding pretty much anything that contradicts your talking points.

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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Code quality matters to engineers. Find a senior manager who cares. Or worse, find a customer who cares. While they obviously want a high quality product, no outages, a responsive system etc, I don’t think they necessarily understand why you need to avoid creating god-objects, need to reason about abstractions, etc.

Code quality directly correlates to everything you describe.

Yea, but I’m not sure customers or mgmt get that

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

#439

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I’m interested in how this works in practise - I guess you’ve written a skill to do code review, then your Claude.md file tells it to use it after every change as a bg task? So does this work as a background task while Claude is working on the next ‘feature’?

I just committed the skill to my dotfiles repository. https://github.com/matheusmoreira/.files/tree/master/~/.clau... There are many "critics", one for each quality I want reviewed. Correctness, consistency, maintainability, security, testing... Everything I could think of, and I keep adding more. https://github.com/matheusmoreira/.files/tree/master/~/.clau... The scrutinize skill is the entry point. The Opus I'm tal…

Thank you for sharing!

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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Reminds me of when Steve Ballmer forbade his children to use iPods and pushed towards the Zune instead. Hahaha

1) They can still use Anthropic models. 2) Opus is not even unambiguously best at coding anymore. GPT 5.5 splits that title for some time now. 3) I would have probably done the same in his position. Dogfood the product.

Dogfooding only works if it actually helps improve the product. zune never improved. Dogfooding without improving is just eating dog food for no good reason.
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