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We're testing new ad formats in Search and expanding our Direct Offers pilot

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Re: We're testing new ad formats in Search and expanding our Direct Offers pilot

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Post by handedness »

jesse_dot_id wrote: post #352
pmdr wrote: post #349

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Yes, but at $5/300 searches they're trying too hard to squeeze $10 out of you for the unlimited plan. 300 searches is ridiculous.

This thread is about injecting ads into searches. Kagi's business model requires you to pay them instead of being bombarded with ads. So...

We can replace the primary and (formerly) indispensable product of a company with a $4T market cap for $5-10/month (less if annualized), and some people still gripe.

Re: We're testing new ad formats in Search and expanding our Direct Offers pilot

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Post by gruez »

stellamariesays wrote: post #281

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>Conversational ads embedded in AI responses blur that line to the point where it may not exist anymore. When an AI tells you "Product X might be right for you because..." and that recommendation is a paid placement, the disclosure burden is fundamentally different from a blue link with "Sponsored" next to it.

???

If you look at the videos in the blog post there's clearly a "sponsored" tag next to the sponsored results. I don't see how it's different than sponsored search results.

Re: We're testing new ad formats in Search and expanding our Direct Offers pilot

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Post by gruez »

inetknght wrote: post #412
threetonesun wrote: post #351

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Why would AI ads be unmarked? Most of the Google AI search results I get show sources. They're just summarizing top results for you, injecting a ad shown as an ad into that isn't tremendously different than how Google worked before.

I wish I could be this naive about things and still be happy.

Instead of making non-substantive patronizing remarks, why don't you respond with actual arguments?

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Post by bluecalm »

nelblu wrote: post #15

> We’re introducing more helpful ads in AI Mode I always chuckle when ad companies say that. I have never seen a helpful ad in google search, but well I have been using adblockers forever so I would not know.I am honestly curious though, for those who don't use adblockers - what percentage of ads that you see are actually helpful?

For me ads on Instagram are often spot-on, same with Facebook although I don't check that too often. Google search always seemed completely off, I don't remember seeing one helpful ad here (helpful being defined as an ad of something I might be interested in buying).

Re: We're testing new ad formats in Search and expanding our Direct Offers pilot

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Post by venusenvy47 »

nosioptar wrote: post #422
delecti wrote: post #244

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Alternatively, just change your browser's default search shortcut, and add &udm=14 to the end of the normal google search. It changes the default search results to "web" rather than "All", which removes all the extraneous crap they've added over the years. Compare https://www.google.com/search?q=test to https://www.google.com/search?q=test&udm=14

Both just give me a recaptcha. Start page doesn't: https://www.startpage.com/sp/search?q=test

Which search engines does it use? I couldn't find info, and I'm just curious.

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Post by thayne »

kiba wrote: post #390
thewebguyd wrote: post #350

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> The real question is whether users will tolerate conversational ads Unfortunately I think they will, as much as I'd hope for the opposite. People already tolerate influencers, deliberate product placement, etc. Heck, most big content creator type content on YouTube/TikTok right now are basically infomercials disguised as entertainment, and people eat it up. The problem with ads in LLM responses is now you can no lo…

All the more reason to go local.

When the only local options are Walmart and maybe Target and the local Kroger subsidiary, it isn't much better.

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Post by pavlus »

thayne wrote: post #438
kiba wrote: post #390

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All the more reason to go local.

When the only local options are Walmart and maybe Target and the local Kroger subsidiary, it isn't much better.

I'd assume they meant self-hosted inference.

Re: We're testing new ad formats in Search and expanding our Direct Offers pilot

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Post by Eduard »

nelblu wrote: post #15

> We’re introducing more helpful ads in AI Mode I always chuckle when ad companies say that. I have never seen a helpful ad in google search, but well I have been using adblockers forever so I would not know.I am honestly curious though, for those who don't use adblockers - what percentage of ads that you see are actually helpful?

Assume the article reader / audience to be someone buying ads on Google and how unhappy they are with how ineffective ads have become in recent years, and you understand AI Mode ads are presented here as more helpful for advertisers.
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