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Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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As a hobbyist dev you don't need an imprint - unless you're selling software, at which point you're a business and your customers should be able to hold you accountable for it.

You need an imprint for pretty much everything, as I wrote earlier. Even a hobbyist Youtube channel requires one if you're strict with it. It's enough that said thing could have business intent and I want to emphasize the could here. To be completely sure, you'd have to check with a lawyer.

> It's enough that said thing could have business intent

So, it is a business.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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For the past days I've been participating(albeit over Teams) in a conference relevant to my industry (intel), basically startups and established companies showcasing their products to a closed audience of EU gov. officials. One thing I noticed right away, is that all companies were asked "Can we fully host this from within EU or our country" from the various people in audience. Every single one. Many of the startups…

I feel this and as a German company, we have our stuff hosted in the EU. But where it becomes pointless to have the host in the EU, is when Cloudflare is a requirement. Since we expose ourselfs through their certificate, we might as well host with a US company. And I’m not aware of a EU Cloudflare competitor with similar WAF offering.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Yes, just like expecting the sun to also rise tomorrow is mostly conjecture and speculation since we cannot see into the future, yet.

This is just categorically different and epistemically dishonest. It is, frankly, an embarrassing attempt to defend the fact that you don't actually have any evidence to support the claim that Cloudflare is supposedly an NSA creation beyond "believe me bro, ever heard of PRISM?"

After the snowden revelations, believing otherwise is beyond faith.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Waiting for your writeup, especially the Bunny part. We moved away from AWS but Cloudflare remains a point of failure, we are going to remove it as soon as we have some spare time to do the required research.

What are you looking for? I use Bunny CDN along with Bunny Shield, and together they're better than Cloudflare for me. It's $10/month, but I can afford it for the privacy of my users. Bunny's aggressive bot blocking without bothering the vast majority of users with regular challenge pages provides a much better UX.

But Bunny Shield is not a Cloudflare WAF replacement afaik. Not even close.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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I started the process of this back in January and now, at least in terms of product hosting; fully migrated into European infrastructure ( https://bannermedia.ltd ). It didn't come without a bit of pain, but glad I've done it - and to come with this I've ended up building a whole terraform setup for cross provider / cross region high availability within Europe. So far my key mappings included: - Cloudflare -> Bunny C…

Did you use Cloudflare for it’s WAF too or just CDN? Last I checked Bunny is not a replacement for the CF WAF.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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>I don't think I've seen such a clear shift in public opinion so fast before Its not about public opinion, but rather data sovereignty requirements. Certain types of data must be processed within servers located in the EU, regardless of where the company's HQ is. That's why you see most SaaS platforms nowadays offer a EU-only version.

Which is just wildly backwards. It is the same mindset of the cyberpunk "privacy advocates" of the early 2000s, move your stuff to Sealand or Switzerland. The fundamental flaw with this plan is if your fear is genuinely of the United States, your data is far more protected inside the US. The intelligence community has no restrictions operating on foreign networks and servers. Rather than go to a FISA court for approv…

So probably makes sense to host on EU headquartered companies

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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> Notice how no one really lists contingencies for "what if the EU goes off the rails"? Where did you try to find this? And what does "EU goes off the rails" actually mean here? There are a bunch of contingencies already in place for economic instability both for individual members states and EU-wide, there is "Article 7 of the Treaty on European Union" in case there is one rogue member, and then each member state ha…

I think you misunderstood what I was talking about, or perhaps you're an example of it. > And what does "EU goes off the rails" actually mean here? It means, "what if the EU starts acting belligerently to other countries like the US has?" Where, hypothetically, would someone move their data since now the US and EU are off the table? And if your answer is "well, you see that would simply be impossible because ", then…

> It means, "what if the EU starts acting belligerently to other countries like the US has?"

How? With what army? The EU is, on purpose, physically incapable of doing this.

From this thread, I am not convinced you really grasp how the EU works or what it actually is.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Sources for those quotes would be very helpful for anyone interested in this, because I’ve certainly never heard this before. We’re two years into his term and democracy does not appear to be dismantled, or even remotely at risk of being dismantled. I also expect the same or similar accusations to be leveled at the next Republican candidate, who if elected, will also not “dismantle democracy”.

> We’re two years into his term and democracy does not appear to be dismantled, or even remotely at risk of being dismantled. I also expect the same or similar accusations to be leveled at the next Republican candidate, who if elected, will also not “dismantle democracy”. I'm not American, I dislike Democrats and Republicans in the US, they're both horrible, just to preface this. Secondly, no other president has urge…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7l0Rq9E8MY

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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> Definitely a change, because it is not something I can recall being important just a couple of years ago. I work as a consultant and freelancer across a bunch of companies, some American but mostly European ones. Last ~8 months or so, the sentiment about "Hosting our data in EU or even our own country" has drastically changed, I don't think I've seen such a clear shift in public opinion so fast before. The amount o…

Surely there would have been mumblings in certain sectors of the EU since the first Trump administration? It’s just that they started to execute now?

I saw a lot of privacy focused reactions when they cut off Trump from social media before his term ended, while still in office. National sovereignty should always be a consideration, especially when it comes to anything related to essential infrastructure. Not every country is able to insource everything, or even a portion of everything... but every country should make an effort to ensure than there is at least some domestic production for everything that is reasonable related to essential infrastructure.

The US, China, Russia, EU (as a whole) and maybe Brazil are the countries in the best position to be able to do that more than most others just by their size and positions. And even that has limitations.

For example, IMO, the US should be manufacturing at least half of it's prescription medications domestically... it should also be producing a significant portion of it's communications devices domestically as well. We're too dependent on Taiwan and South Korea for technology currently.

I would encourage every nation to consider and take steps towards ensuring their own infrastructure... this does not mean isolation, just security footing.

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