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California farmers to destroy 420k peach trees following Del Monte bankruptcy

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Re: California farmers to destroy 420k peach trees following Del Monte bankruptcy

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See my other comment: in 20+ years in the Bay Area, compared to 25 in SW Ontario (Canada): the BEST peach I've had in 20+ years in the Bay Area wouldn't even make it as "a good one" of the bunches we had every summer in Canada. Not sure where they came from, but from personal experience, Bay Area peaches suck REALLY hard. I've WANTED to find some good ones, because I miss them, and they're always super hard or alread…

Agree. California peaches are horrible. Southern peaches (Georgia, Carolinas) are indescribably better. I love California, but it's funny/sad the extent to which many Californians deny that other parts of the USA have us beat in some regards.

White peaches in California in stone fruit season are delicious. Pluots also pretty darn good. Freestone peaches in Niagara are the best on the continent bar none. Georgia has pretty good peaches probably on par or maybe a bit better than california, but smaller and mixed bag whenever I have had them in June.

Re: California farmers to destroy 420k peach trees following Del Monte bankruptcy

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> Canned fruit, like what these farmers were producing, has been losing popularity for years. You can't force consumers to like it. Has canned fruit actually lost popularity? Or did the grocery stores decide that the shelf space had a higher profit margin pushing something else? The last couple of times I tried to get canned fruit for a recipe I had to actively hunt for the particular cans of fruit I needed (I needed…

> Has canned fruit actually lost popularity? Compared to Del Monte's heyday in the previous century? Absolutely. A remarkable amount of fruit is available all year, or most of the year now. I cant imagine eating canned fruit by choice.

Another thing in short supply these days is actually being able to buy an actually good Apple pie or Peach pie. Oh well…

I shall try and see if I can get a Peach or an Apple pie. This weekend you know the old-fashioned pie that actually tastes good and is well made.

That’s another thing that’s in short supply along with actually getting any good baked goods unless you can go to a small Bakery somewhere if you can find one they usually cost a more but not that much more than what you could find in the supermarket times have been changing for the worst when comes to baked goods.

Del Monte in recent times was passed between four equity companies. One of those equity companies actually bought them twice. Del Monte was on the pathway to hell.

Hopefully some of those trees can be transplanted within a 50 mile radius of where they are. If I lived up in that area. I would seriously try to see if I could transplant a few.

Re: California farmers to destroy 420k peach trees following Del Monte bankruptcy

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post #292

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> Canned fruit, like what these farmers were producing, has been losing popularity for years. You can't force consumers to like it. Has canned fruit actually lost popularity? Or did the grocery stores decide that the shelf space had a higher profit margin pushing something else? The last couple of times I tried to get canned fruit for a recipe I had to actively hunt for the particular cans of fruit I needed (I needed…

> Has canned fruit actually lost popularity? Compared to Del Monte's heyday in the previous century? Absolutely. A remarkable amount of fruit is available all year, or most of the year now. I cant imagine eating canned fruit by choice.

A well-made, old-fashioned peach pie. With good vanilla ice cream on top. McConnell’s, Häagen-Dazs or the best you can find locally or maybe homemade.

Re: California farmers to destroy 420k peach trees following Del Monte bankruptcy

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I'm gonna make a guess that it's the long debunked hypothesis that aluminum cookware and cans are linked to Alzheimers. As it turned out, aluminum poisoning can cause dementia-like symptoms, but you can't get aluminum poisoning from cookware or cans.

Aren't most food cans made of steel, not aluminum?

Food and beverage cans are made of plastics with a metallic wrapper. Don't worry -- I'm sure it's BPA-free!

Re: California farmers to destroy 420k peach trees following Del Monte bankruptcy

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Oh no. Lower costs for consumers? Oh the humanity!

Yes, lower prices for a while, then very high prices and little availability for a long time. Think ahead.

Or just permanently lower prices because the previous prices were artificially high.

Re: California farmers to destroy 420k peach trees following Del Monte bankruptcy

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No, not typically. And I know this because I grew up around farmers and farmers that had orchards. Trees would be cut down and replaced, usually if the tree was sickly. But not because this year plums are doing better on the market. As I said, trees take a long time to bear fruit. It's not typical that a farmer will cut down a tree in their orchard in response to market pressure as that tree represents a huge investm…

There’s not a lot of overlap between prime citrus and prime olive farmland.

What does citrus have to do with anything?

Re: California farmers to destroy 420k peach trees following Del Monte bankruptcy

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I'm not saying this is a good idea, but the government doesn't need to know how to micromanage these operations. The company already has employees who can do these things. All they need is to get paid. If the government decided that the final harvest of peaches needed to be canned, they could take over the business and pay to make it happen. edit: Actually, they don't even need to take over the business. Another comp…

If nobody else wants to buy 50,000 tons of canned peaches, why should the government use other people's tax revenue to buy those peaches? Why not just get rid of them (which is what we're doing)?

I never said the government should buy the peaches. I pointed out that your argument didn't work.

You said the government shouldn't do this because they lacked the expertise and (implicitly) would balls it up. I pointed out that it didn't require any expertise. That is all.

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