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Re: Meta in row after workers who saw smart glasses users having sex lose jobs

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Post by cnd78A »

prepend wrote: post #140
SlinkyOnStairs wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Fun" bonus fact: This isn't the first time Sama (the outsourcing company) has had these problems. OpenAI had them classify CSAM, so Sama fired them as a client back in 2022. https://time.com/6247678/openai-chatgpt-kenya-workers/ We're 4 years on, 3 years since that report broke. Not a single thing has improved about how tech companies operate.

How else do you want companies to remove and prevent CSAM? It seems like you must have some human involvement to train and monitor. It’s a terrible job, I wouldn’t want to do it, but someone needs to. Perhaps one day, AI will be accurate enough to not need it, but even then you need someone to process complaints and waivers (like someone’s home photos being inaccurately flagged).

t’s a terrible job

you must be extremy priviledge to think that way, even as EU I would be glad to do it for the minimum salary. For your info, a terrible job for most human is a job that is extremly hard physically at the point of destroying your health. That said, like many people, I would find it much more interesting than many boring job. [If someone read this, please hire me for this, in exchange I would work the 5 first hour for free]

Re: Meta in row after workers who saw smart glasses users having sex lose jobs

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Post by MarchApril »

I don't even trust the webcam electrical shutter of my laptop to the point I ran tape over it. Why people trust tech giants with their private data so much? What do they think of when they hear "private data"? Like trivial things such as their names, their mother's maiden names, what they ate this morning, posts they saw on Facebook? Because that have to be the case when I see someone flushing with an app on their phone and yells "Siri, play a seductive song to get me and my wife Julie in the mood? Turn it off after 10 minutes. Also don't record us during our hot love making!".

Re: Meta in row after workers who saw smart glasses users having sex lose jobs

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Post by cnd78A »

arw0n wrote: post #338
GrinningFool wrote: post #245

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> traumatizing contract workers for $2-3 an hour) Is there an hourly rate at which this should be acceptable?

There is labor that is necessary for our societies to function, but a direct threat to the people doing the work. Someone has to do it, and it should be seen as a great service to society and rewarded accordingly. In a just world, we would be paying significantly extra for threats to health that come from work, in the one we are currently in we use threat of worse harm instead.

Someone has to do it, and it should be seen as a great service to society and rewarded accordingly

You are just too priviledge to understand people: many people would be glad do do it for the minimum wage, I would fight to have that oportunity (I live in west EU).

Re: Meta in row after workers who saw smart glasses users having sex lose jobs

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Post by SoftTalker »

partyficial wrote: post #428
SoftTalker wrote: post #347

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I think smartphones are a lost cause. Even at the gym, there are guys in the locker room taking pics of themselves in the mirror. Meanwhile I'm walking ass-naked out of the shower. There is just no sensitivity to appropriate time and place anymore.

> Meanwhile I'm walking ass-naked out of the shower is this a Western/American thing about no shame regarding one's body in public places in the presence of other people, be it male or female? I can never imagine this happening in my country.

Which part? The shirtless posing for the camera in the locker room mirror, or the stepping out of the shower naked?

I mean it's a locker room... it's a space meant for changing clothes and showering.

Re: Meta in row after workers who saw smart glasses users having sex lose jobs

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Post by coldtea »

collingreen wrote: post #420
coldtea wrote: post #405

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> First responders/doctors/CPS investigators see the worst but they also have days where they make a difference. Save a life or multiple lives. I'm sure it's a huge part of what makes the job bearable, and to some meaningful. You think miners don't make a difference or save lives?

> You think miners don't make a difference or save lives? Do you think miners mining is saving lives in the same way that doctors saving lives is saving lives? To continue the parents point, do you think miners derive a deep or powerful satisfaction from some of their mining work which might offer some of the heavy cost it has on them physically and emotionally?

I think miners save more lives (through the supply of gas, energy, battery materials, pesticides, fertilizers, solar panel minerals, and ultimately electricity, computing materials, etc) than doctors do.

And I think what prevents miners to "derive a deep or powerful satisfaction from some of their mining work which might offset some of the heavy cost it has on them physically and emotionally" is not anything inherent in their work, but people thinking that only direct affect should be prestigious and satisfying and underapreciating the thankless background work to keep the lights on.

Same way people sneer at cleaning people or teachers and their meagre salaries and no respect, or domestic labor.

Re: Meta in row after workers who saw smart glasses users having sex lose jobs

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Post by partyficial »

SoftTalker wrote: post #434
partyficial wrote: post #428

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Meanwhile I'm walking ass-naked out of the shower is this a Western/American thing about no shame regarding one's body in public places in the presence of other people, be it male or female? I can never imagine this happening in my country.

Which part? The shirtless posing for the camera in the locker room mirror, or the stepping out of the shower naked? I mean it's a locker room... it's a space meant for changing clothes and showering.

> stepping out of the shower naked?

i'd never step out to a place where a stranger could see me, without a towel or wet shorts covering my private bits.

Re: Meta in row after workers who saw smart glasses users having sex lose jobs

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Post by wolvoleo »

aeve890 wrote: post #233
rickdg wrote: post #37

This is what happens when you buy a camera from the "they trust me, dumb fucks" guy and put it on your face.

But aren't the users wearing glasses while nude or having sex dumb fucks though?

I can imagine there's a use case for these glasses during sex. It would make for pretty exciting footage :)

These users probably didn't know where it would end up.

Re: Meta in row after workers who saw smart glasses users having sex lose jobs

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Post by wolvoleo »

kylehotchkiss wrote: post #190
fortran77 wrote: post #178

People have sex with their glasses on?

Are their partners even consenting to glasses with cameras??

Well they would be right up in your face in some positions, I can't imagine they don't know.

And people do record porn for personal viewing. They probably didn't know it was being viewed by meta employees as well.

Re: Meta in row after workers who saw smart glasses users having sex lose jobs

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Post by bpt3 »

freejazz wrote: post #430
bpt3 wrote: post #397

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In what regard is it incorrect that a single, larger entity that is at least notionally committed to avoiding the existence of any specific type of content on their platform is more likely to successfully avoid the existence of that type of content on their platform than smaller entities with less resources? Now consider that some of those smaller entities might not be even notionally interested in avoiding the exist…

Trying so hard not to say child porn.

The problem generalizes, so there's no need to focus on this specific type of content.

Care to address the actual issue?

Re: Meta in row after workers who saw smart glasses users having sex lose jobs

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Post by bpt3 »

freejazz wrote: post #429
bpt3 wrote: post #395

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So what would satisfy you?

Them to actually undertake meaningful efforts to reduce the child porn on their platform. Crazy, I know.

Define meaningful then? It's quite odd how you seem to be adamant that there is a perfect solution available yet seem to be talking around it.
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