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Online age verification is the hill to die on

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Re: Online age verification is the hill to die on

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post #397

Enjoy dying on that hill then because without mandatory ID for potentially harmful services like social media, we will continue to descend further into the brainrot that many of you suffer from today.

I'm curious to hear your theory on how it saves us from the brain rot!

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Re: Online age verification is the hill to die on

#432
post #400

The Electronic Frontier Foundation set up a resource page for this: https://eff.org/age Their guide: https://www.eff.org/files/2026/04/09/condensed-age_verificat... Unfortunately, their most prominent call to action doesn't seem to address the various state-specific and non-US legislation (focusing on KOSA instead). Here it is: https://www.eff.org/pages/help-us-fight-back

The EFF has long been a skin suit my dude, they're just here to dissipate and confuse opposition.

>they're just here to dissipate and confuse opposition

What do you mean by this?

Re: Online age verification is the hill to die on

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Good: some commenters here realize it's an attack on privacy Bad: some still entertain the idea that we should do age verification using some sort of crypto primitives There is no reason for age verification at all. I am from the goatse generation. Rotten.com. steakandcheese. Horrific stuff tbh, I mostly stayed away from it, and I didn't need a helicopter government to protect me from it. The moment you accept the na…

Over a decade ago, on the website of a cable news network named after vermin, you could watch an uncensored video of terrorists setting someone on fire.

Re: Online age verification is the hill to die on

#435

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Right? I especially don't understand where some of the "think of the children" attitude on porn sites, as they for the most part already ask for your age and if you didn't get some kind of amusement out of seeing tits as a teenager you're a liar

It's a function of our society becoming more puritan and conservative in the past 10-15 years. This has been a slow burn. We are back to perceiving viewing boobies as an existential threat to people. Currently, sexuality is being demonized all around, and sexual morality is once again becoming a currency in society. I encourage people to talk to some Gen Z kids. They're much more puritan than millennials. They're foc…

I spend most of my social media time on tumblr, and it's really funny to see the whiplash of attitudes between the older and younger gen z. The younger ones tend to be the puritans and the older ones are all polyamorous bisexual furries who want to have sex with robots (obviously exaggerating but not by much)

Re: Online age verification is the hill to die on

#436

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Plenty European countries have eID without these issues.

You use eID when explicitly interacting with a govt entity or bank or otherwise similar institution because you have to and want to prove who you are. Yes, I do want to prove who I am when I file taxes, vote or want to start a business... You don't use it when just browsing randomly on the internet. You don't use it to buy games on steam. Your computer isn't forced to store it because a law arbitrarily says so.

I don't disagree with random browsing. I do use it to buy games on steam as any online purchase on my card uses it. And my computer doesn't store it, my phone does.

Re: Online age verification is the hill to die on

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They also use them to flag people who've been previously banned and the systems work across venues. The idea that verification in the real world is cursory is not accurate.

The vast majority of places I frequent do not even have a person at the door checking IDs. If the bar tender/server thinks you look young, they ask for ID. I clearly do not look to be too young, so there's that. The last place I went to with an actual scanner was more of a nightclub that had a cover charge.

There's a fine line between night clubs and bars (and a venue can operate as both, depending on the night).

Functioning as a bar where people come in, drink and eat - generally not checking ID's at the door.

Functioning as a night club, generally checking ID's at the door. Almost no places I've been to scan ID's. I'm also middle aged and not going to night clubs hardly ever. Pretty much just a couple concerts a year in the big city. Those venues scan ID's.

Re: Online age verification is the hill to die on

#438

THe government shouldn't be raising anyone's children, that's what parents are for. If you're a bad parent, your kids will get access to bad things and could become an adult failure. The future of your family and your legacy is up to you, not the government. We don't need age verification to restrict the social darwinism of raising children.

> THe government shouldn't be raising anyone's children, that's what parents are for.

The government does raise children. It's called the public school system.

Re: Online age verification is the hill to die on

#439
post #330

I have long thought that all content (local and remote) should be properly labeled with metadata. Just like the cans of soup in the supermarket, you don't have to open it to find out if it has peanuts, lactose, or MSG in it; you should be able to filter data before accessing it. You could define a set of 5 or six categories (nudity, sex, drugs, violence, etc.) and have a scale from 1 to 10 for each. Each content prod…

There are some showstoppers here, though. You have to either: A) Change the laws in all countries (a non-starter), or B) Restrict access to only countries that obey those laws And Option B is a non-starter to the freedom crowd. Not to mention all the other issues with labeling, such as: A) How to label in an internationally-agreeable way B) How to prevent abusive mislabeling It's fraught, this path.

V-Chip all over again. Now with mandatory browser extensions which hook into the OS' parental controls.

It's no better.

Re: Online age verification is the hill to die on

#440
post #92

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If everyone is complaining about the smell of shit, maybe it's because there's shit everywhere.

It's more likely that they're just virtue signaling about {{current-controversial-thing}}, as evidenced by the fact that they often accuse content of being AI generated when it would only appear that way to the most naive readers.

I don’t believe that expressing distaste for something you have observed and find offensive and annoying is “virtue signaling”. That doesn’t really match up with what that term was coined to signify.
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