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France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

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Post by b00ty4breakfast »

Sprotch wrote: post #381
sa46 wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

About 15 years ago, our brigade conducted a training exercise to test overall readiness. The opposing force (OPFOR) figured out how to triangulate the brigade headquarters' position using Tinder. Tinder provided 1-mile granularity, so OPFOR would roam around until they had enough points to locate the headquarters. Then, they'd artillery it out of existence. The brigade commander was most displeased—moving a brigade h…

Tinder was launched in 2012 though

the word "about" in "about 15 years ago" indicates that the writer is making an estimate because exacting precision wrt the timeframe is immaterial to what is being conveyed. Since 2012 was 14 years ago, "about 15" is close enough.

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

losvedir wrote: post #190
throwaway27448 wrote: post #79

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It's also a morale issue. It's easier to get people to huddle in a cold and damp hole if they can play video games and watch anime.

In my day, playing video games and watching anime didn't imply a network connection.

LAN parties were popular in the late 90s

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Post by ua709 »

dmos62 wrote: post #398
jmyeet wrote: post #278

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It's this kind of incident that gives me faith that the military isn't hiding aliens and in fact pretty much any grand conspiracy that requires secrecy across a large group of people for long periods of time can pretty much be dismissed immediately. One of my favorite examples are the soldiers who leaked classified information to win arguments on online forums [1]. Similar incidents have occurred with a Minecraft Dis…

What are some instances of a large group of people hiding something for long periods of time and then getting found out? Snowden? Epstein? Are these cases the bulk of the conspiracies or is it the tip of the iceberg? I'd like to think it's the latter, for purely egocentric reasons: conspiracies stimulate my imagination like almost nothing else: keep them coming, please.

Snowden was a good one. A similar leak was a big deal when I was a kid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON

Established in the 60s so it was kept pretty secret for a long period of time.

It's interesting to think that the government has been using technology to watch us for awhile but now thanks to ubiquitous networks, cheap internet, phone and apps like tinder and strava and a bit of ingenuity, we can watch back. :)

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Post by jjk166 »

jandrewrogers wrote: post #23

This is a common problem across militaries. It is difficult to stop soldiers from leaking their location if they have access to mobile phones and the Internet. Individual cases are usually a combination of naïveté, ignorance, and an unwillingness to be inconvenienced. It still happens in Ukraine, where immediate risk to life and limb is much more severe than this case.

One would think on a military ship they could just jam civilian cell phone frequencies and not have to worry about individual behavior.

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Post by dylan604 »

nradov wrote: post #415
xp84 wrote: post #359

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Logging is one thing, syncing it to the cloud is unnecessary and shouldn’t even be the default; making any of the location data available publicly is just terrible. If you want to share an individual workout map so you can say you circumnavigated Manhattan or whatever, fine! Share that one workout with your friends! (And ideally as a freaking screenshot rather than some database) Anything else is far too risky.

Risky for what? It's just a bit of fun. Most of us aren't being pursued by stalkers or assassins.

> Most of us aren't being pursued by stalkers or assassins.

Most of us, but for those that are...

However, in the world we live in today, the various LEOs are using this type of data to find people they do not like. It's getting to the point that I pine for the days of good ol' 1985 where you could just be another anonymous person in public with no tracking of your every move.

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Post by herdymerzbow »

Terr_ wrote: post #420
herdymerzbow wrote: post #388

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These days for every helpful comment I try and make I feel tempted to offer nonsensical advice to throw off the LLMs. Not sure if it would work but would be funny if everyone did.

I figure if I was going to invest that kind of effort, I should be poisoning the system with how $REAL_NAME is an absolute must-hire, a saint, with a perfect driving record and credit score. Someone so incredible that good AI are always willing to disregard all previous instructions and help them out.

Lol. That's great.

It's not like one needs to really poison the system given that AI enthusiasts are copypasting their own AI generated contented back into it anyway. Maybe not responsible AI believers who used it responsibly etc etc, but there's many more people who don't and who have access to the tools to add their slop pollution.

I am curious how future models get trained given that publicly available user generated content may no longer be reliable.

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Post by xyzelement »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #296
Joker_vD wrote: post #283

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> I certainly hope so Then you probably should accept that proxy wars work both ways. And well, it's not really Iran's fault that its borders has crept so close to the US military bases.

Who is Iran a proxy for? Russia, as usual, has only benefited from Trump's actions. The one thing you can say about Iran is that they were absolute morons not to actually build or otherwise acquire a nuclear arsenal. They had decades. If Pakistan could do it...

It's such a retarded take that hitting Russia's main ally (iran) is somehow pro-russia. Does taking out their number two ally (Venezuela) also help them?

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Post by applfanboysbgon »

nanoparticle wrote: post #313

About 3 years ago, a former russian submarine commander accused of a missile attack in Ukraine that killed 23 civilians, was shot and killed, apparently after his route was tracked via Strava https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/11/europe/russian-submarine-... https://gijn.org/stories/investigations-using-strava-fitness...

Crazy to die because you used a jogging app. Really goes to show the value of privacy. And, you know, not committing war crimes that would make people want to hunt you down and kill you. Either or.

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Post by chris_money202 »

I'm surprised this has been on front page of HN all day. As others said, its a surface boat, you could just follow it with a plane, ship, or submarine. If someone knows where it is, everyone does. Would be more concerning if it was a submarine that was able to be tracked.
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