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Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by ndbdkskk »

Traster wrote: post #408
fennecbutt wrote: post #243

Eh, tbh I've given up. Can't point out the terrible things that the IDF are up to without being labelled an apologist, or terrorist supporter, or just getting a massively negative reaction. Now I'm not one to fall prey to the conspiracy theories around Judaism...but like...is it not possible to say that both hamas and the IDF do terrible things? And that innocent civilians are caught in between, with the usual bad fa…

I feel something very similar. I have strong views that what Israel is doing is wrong. But I look around at our politics (in the UK), and there is such a well oiled Israeli PR operation that is very happy making career ending accusations that talking publicly about this is actually quite dangerous (Not helped by the loonies who are, and have always been disgusting anti-semites). And you look at our politician's stanc…

Also to note UK is on massive rise in anti muslim sentiment in recent years. That also a major contribution

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Post by tpm »

nailer wrote: post #327
bhouston wrote: post #257

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> is it not possible to say that both hamas and the IDF do terrible things? I agree. Hamas and IDF do terrible things - the ICC issued warrants for the leaders of both. This is why an external party has to impose a solution and it should involve in my opinion separation (two-states.) Both parties are radicalized at least for now and need to be separated and allowed to manage their own affairs while allowing the other…

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The State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 157 of the 193 member states of the United Nations, or just over 80% of all UN members.

The only obstacle to the two-state solution is Israel and the US blocking it with powerful violence.

Please don't lie.

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by hjkl0 »

jon_adler wrote: post #389
bhouston wrote: post #349

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100% not true. Abbas wants a Palestinian state beside Israel. This is what he has supported for a long time. And why many states in the last two years have recognized a Palestinian state: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/mahmoud-abbas-palestinian-pres... While there was rejectionists in the past, Netanyahu has been the rejectionist for the last two decades. He says so himself: https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-boa…

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Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by amelius »

Ar-Curunir wrote: post #315
amelius wrote: post #288

This wouldn't have happened if they didn't dehumanize their enemies. This should be considered a crime in itself.

Who exactly are you blaming here, the IDF or the boys family?

Who pulled the trigger here?

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Post by ngcazz »

ndbdkskk wrote: post #423
jiaosdjf wrote: post #421

This kid will grow up and fight, and I don't blame him. Gaza is a concentration camp, West Bank is an apartheid. These people have the audacity to bribe and threaten our governments to do their nationalist ethno-state bidding in one hand while pushing the narrative that the west must not have any identity or borders in the other. They fund PACs that threaten 80% of congress with "we'll front an opposition candidate a…

May be they all should embrace "show the other cheek" and the suffering will stop

This is a joke right?

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Post by ngcazz »

ahf8Aithaex7Nai wrote: post #69

I am German. My government does not acknowledge the tragedy that has been unfolding in Gaza since the Hamas attack in October 2023. It’s absurd. Since then, Jewish people in Berlin who were demonstrating alongside Palestinians against the war in Gaza have been beaten down by the German police. In 2021, Esther Bejarano, the last survivor of the Auschwitz Girls’ Orchestra, passed away in Hamburg. Whenever she commented…

The tragedy in Gaza, the tragedy in Srebrenica, the tragedy in Rwanda? Genocide is the word.

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Post by ozlikethewizard »

dmitrygr wrote: post #317
ozlikethewizard wrote: post #307

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So what exactly did the 8 year old boy sat in the back of his parents car do wrong?

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Luck implies a lack of fault. Also we probably shouldn't open fire on suspects fleeing from a heist either, kid or no kid. Extra-judical justice is generally a bad thing, this is why pit maneuvers exist. Allowing police to fire at moving vehicles is a universally bad idea, and one thats understood by most nations.

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Post by alee08 »

Ar-Curunir wrote: post #315
amelius wrote: post #288

This wouldn't have happened if they didn't dehumanize their enemies. This should be considered a crime in itself.

Who exactly are you blaming here, the IDF or the boys family?

https://x.com/Imamofpeace/status/2033709979211886928

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Post by olelele »

thot_experiment wrote: post #350
olelele wrote: post #96

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I live in DE too, it's terrifying. I didn't realize the extent of the armaments shipped to Israel from Germany until recently. The Israeli navy ships were built in German shipyards and subsidized 30%...

It's terrifying everywhere, really shines a light on the insane levels of propaganda we live under. I don't really know what can be done about it, it's really just hard to wrap my head around living in a country that so explicitly and directly supports an ethnostate and their active genocide.

Germany has a lot of very strange political formations. The anti-german antifa is very curious and close to this topic.
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