Danish government agency to ditch Microsoft software (2025)

Look, I support Europe's push for computational sovereignty. It's frankly long overdue. But Europeans still consistently underestimate the scope and difficulty of that task, and it must be undertaken simultaneously with building military and energy sovereignty while China's eating their economic lunch.

There isn't the money, the attention bandwidth, the industry, the IP, the skilled labor with know-how, the tools, or the raw materials to do all of those.

> Chinese alternatives are starting to appear

Maybe, but they are seriously handicapped and not competitive. And certainly when it comes to inference: They also don't have the hardware capacity to supply their own market and the European market.

> will be very competitive in the next few years

Maybe. More likely they'll only be competitive in 10+ years.

> Europe also has some key strategic cards to play when it comes to hardware, such as access to TSMC.

Then why haven't they played them? Both Japan and America got commitments for significant domestic advanced node fab and packaging facilities from TSMC. Europe only got 40k WSPMs of already-outdated 12nm+ lines.

Further: Which European company is designing or will soon design competitive CPUs/GPUs/switching to hand off to TSMC? Will a European company cut in line for cutting-edge tools, conjure up IP and know-how from nothing, and start selling HBM and DRAM, too? And will all these fantasy companies be decoupling from US EDA tools, as well?

Finally: If you're saying that Europe will be able to outplay the US in a zero-sum game for access to TSMC wafer spins, you might want to consider also the strategic cards that the US can play to prevent that.

> Europe will be a consumer/bystander in the AI race, not a protagonist

That's not just likely, that's absolutely guaranteed. Sorry, Mr. Draghi.

> For that, you don't need a lot of hardware

How do you serve inference at scale without a lot of hardware? If both US and China are supply-constrained for GPUs that they're turning into high-value-added products/services, why would they give Europe any hardware at all?

If I can turn a $100k GPU into $1M of value, there aren't enough GPUs in the world, your companies don't have the fiscal firepower to be price-setters, and your products/services compete with mine on global markets--why the fuck would I sell you any GPUs? Charity?

And if the plan is for European computing to remain totally dependent on US and CN... what are we even talking about here?

> But it can lose that post in the future

Sure, nothing lasts forever. But I thought this was about European computational sovereignty, not dependence on the US specifically. I guess not: Depending on the US is a crisis, but depending on Qatar and China is A-OK. What could go wrong?

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According to his other comments it's about immigrants...

Since a few people ask "What can I do to help my govt/region/country to become more sovereign", here's my tips on this:

- All governments under EU (on almost all levels) are "required" to use and/or produce software as Open Source. The source of "that government app" should be available somewhere (though quite likely is not)¹ So go hunt for the source and start there.

- Look at underlying standards. EU regulation, trickling down into local laws and guidelines, rely on Open Standards almost always. That app you use to log into your tax environment quite probably uses (a weird, hard to recognize) variation of OAUTH2 or OpenID connect, SAML or such. The app that shows the time+dates for garbage-collection, quite probably uses a simple ical-feed under the hood. With that knowledge, you may be able to develop/fork/use open source alternatives without too much effort².

- Show (local) representatives the alternatives. Listen to them. Learn from them. Most representatives are suprisingly open to you as expert. But, I cannot stress enough, learn and listen foremost. IT experts and open source community in particular have an (IMHO well deserved) reputation for being arrogant, know-it-all unfriendly and rediculously single-minded. So don't lecture that councillor for using Twitter instead of Mastodon, riduculing them for not using GPG or scoffing at their insistence on using Microsoft Word over Vim with Markdown (My younger self was such an arrogant neckbeard; I am now convinced I have done actual harm to the Open Source community that way). But ask why twitter, have they tried mastodon, or bluesky? Why not? Why did they leave? What features in MSword do they require? Did they know that Jitsi is an option? Maybe you can show how they could use Nextcloud for at least their own files? Sometimes you can answer some of their questions and help them. More often, you learn a few things that you could use to improve sovereign and open source alternatives and align them slightly more with whats needed.

¹ The details, interpretations and implementations are a mess, but the idea is "open source, unless..." for any software that any government buys, rents, builds, etc. In practice almost all projects fall under "unless...". I spoke to a MSFT account-manager for several local govts and he told me they have f*in training material to "help" govt officials write tenders/requirements in such a way that Open Source is practically excluded and Microsoft the only option. I am appalled, but also not that surprised.

² The ical-finding is how I got my local garbage-collection schedule into my calendar app. And when I told this to someone who happened to work at the municipality, they realized that publishing the urls and docs online helped a lot of citizens. Ironically, the push-back, according to this person, was from a civil-servant whose career was influenced on the success (install counts) of the "municipality app" and who was afraid that if people could add the calendar to their outlook/google cal/ical/other-cal, might no longer install the app. Again, I was appalled at such perverse incentives.

Yes, I always think it's quite rich for Americans to complain about European defence when the current state is exactly what America wanted for the last seventy years.