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I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by junon »

johndhi wrote: post #340
junon wrote: post #137

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> Why would _that_ be the problem Because it should still be my choice as to what you do with it, which data you associate with it, and how you store it. Removing that choice is anti-privacy.

It's way less your choice what happens with a photo of your face in pretty much every other situation. When your face is on your LinkedIn profile, anyone can download it and do whatever they want with it. Legally. Here, the vendor has to tell you how they use it.

Someone downloading it randomly is not the same as me volunteering information said random person wouldn't otherwise have and having that information be stored next to my image in a database that can be breached.

All for a checkmark next to my profile that says I'm a real human.

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Post by foxglacier »

remixer-dec wrote: post #319
petemc_ wrote: post #136

Persona do not seem to be competent guardians of such a trove of private information. https://vmfunc.re/blog/persona

as much as I like the design and the post, that website causes a massive memory leak in Firefox for Mac

"reveals", not "causes". The memory leak, if it truly exists, was already present. It's not a website's fault for triggering it.

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by JimDabell »

wolvoleo wrote: post #165
ljm wrote: post #157

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There's an entire cottage industry of linkedin scrapers that put a lot of effort into guessing your email address to enable cold outreach. I'm ashamed to say I worked at one such place for several months. Apollo is probably the most comprehensive source for this. It's creepy as fuck.

Yes I notice that too. I hide my last name now because at my company it's just firstname.lastname so easy to guess. It helps a lot but I still get a lot of sales goons. A lot of them follow up constantly too "hey what about that meeting invite I sent you why did you not attend"? My deleted email box is full of them (I instantly block them the minute I get an invite to anything from someone I don't know, and I wish Ou…

Put an emoji after your name in LinkedIn. Something that obviously isn’t part of your name. All the bots that scrape LinkedIn and guess your email address will include the emoji when addressing you in an email; no humans will. You can then use this in a spam filter.

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Post by themafia »

Aurornis wrote: post #387
themafia wrote: post #350

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You assume that targeting is to find the best worker for the correct pay. What if it's just to find the most desperate worker for the lowest pay possible?

I’m not assuming anything. It’s a job market. Like all markets they operate on supply and demand. In your example, so what if they give the job to the most desperate worker instead of a different one at a higher price? Are we supposed to prefer that the desperate worker does not get the job and instead it goes to someone else at a higher rate? If someone is desperate for a job because they really need work, I’d prefe…

Like all markets they can be monopolized. You are assuming quite a bit by presuming that the market works perfectly according to rather basic economic principles.

There are all kinds of reasons someone could be more desperate. Perhaps they have a significant skills gap. Perhaps they don't have citizenship. Perhaps their health care options are artificially limited. You invoke supply and demand but you narrow your focus to a single interface when it's obvious that wouldn't be appropriate.

It's not about "penalizing corporations" it's about "being honest about their motives." Unlike many on HN I refuse to handwave away this thorny and uncomfortable process.

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Post by foxglacier »

register wrote: post #193
Saline9515 wrote: post #128

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Why can't the EU deploy capital? Regulation doesn't create better products, more aggressive marketing techniques, or deeply entrepreneurial mindsets which favor innovation and growth. While OP is quite aggressive here, there is a nugget of truth: innovation doesn't happen because "we have the best lawyers" or "the best regulations". Maybe some self-criticism would be warranted to solve the problem. Also nothing force…

Here's another JD Vance who doesn't understand what international rules are and justifies that with (lack of) innovation Below you can find the relevant GDPR excerpt. But before that, let me add to the coment below that US companies only comply with what EU institutions can enforce and what suits them; which is normal, since China does the same. Well, it couldn’t have been said better: in fact, we’re beginning to vie…

Is LinkedIn established in a place where Member State law applies? I guess not? You can't just go around pretending your law applies to people in other countries because none of the necessary institutions in those countries will respect your law.

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Post by driverdan »

ColinWright wrote: post #20

I used to have a LinkedIn account, a long time ago. To register I created an email address that was unique to LinkedIn, and pretty much unguessable ... certainly not amenable to a dictionary attack. I ended up deciding that I was getting no value from the account, and I heard unpleasant things about the company, so I deleted the account. Within hours I started to get spam to that unique email address. It would be int…

LinkedIn definitely sells/shares/leaks email address. I'm not sure which but I also have the same problem. I created my account with a unique email I've only used for LI. I occasionally get B2B and recruiter spam sent to that email.

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Post by foxglacier »

gib444 wrote: post #377
csmpltn wrote: post #188

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Victim mentality? Explain what stops Europe from producing a worthy LinkedIn competitor that challenges LinkedIn's hegemony.

> Victim mentality Oh please.

He's right though. Blaming someone else for your own failures is victim mentality - regardless of whether they really are the cause or not. Notice how China managed to break free from US tech dominance, no matter how difficult it was, by making itself strong and capable instead of accepting helplessness which is victim mentality.

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Post by shimman »

judahmeek wrote: post #401
godelski wrote: post #351

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> when they are only incentivized to lie, cheat, and steal The fact that they are allowed to do this is beyond me. The fact that they do this is destructive to innovation and I'm not sure why we pretend it enables innovation. There's a thousands multi million dollar companies that I'm confident most users here could implement, but the major reason many don't is because to actually do it is far harder than what those…

Because the liars who have already profited from lying will defend the current system. The best fix that we can work on now in America is repealing the 17th amendment to restrengthen the federal system as a check on populist impulses, which can easily be manipulated by liars.

lol what the fuck, no. Can't believe you look at the current system and think "you know what, political parties should be able to choose senators not the citizens." Good lord.

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by wackget »

aylmao wrote: post #288

I'll note that Persona's CEO responded on LinkedIn [1] pointing out that: - No personal data processed is used for AI/model training. Data is exclusively used to confirm your identity. - All biometric personal data is deleted immediately after processing. - All other personal data processed is automatically deleted within 30 days. Data is retained during this period to help users troubleshoot. - The only subprocessor…

"The only subprocessors used to verify your identity are"... some of the biggest data mining companies on the planet. Excellent.
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