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Re: Prism

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post #405

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What the OP was talking about is the negative connotation that goes with the word; it's certainly a poor choice from a marketing point of view. You may say it's "silly to obsess", but it's like naming a product "Auschwitz" and saying "it's just a city name" -- it ignores the power of what Geffrey N. Leech called "associative meaning" in his taxonomy of "Seven Types of Meaning" (Semantics, 2nd. ed. 1989): speaking tha…

Well, I don't know anything about marketing and you might have a point, but the severity of impact of these two words is clearly very different, so it doesn't look like a good comparison to me. It would raise quite a few eyebrows and more if, for example, someone released a Linux distro named "Auschwitz OS", meanwhile, even in the software world, there are multiple products that incorporate the word prism in various…

I think the ideas was to try to explain why is a problem to choose something, it is not a comparison of the intensity / importance.

I am not sure you can make an argument of "other people are doing it too". Lots of people do things that it is not in their interest (ex: smoking, to pick the easy one).

As others mentioned, I did not have the negative connotation related to the word prism either, but not sure how could one check that anyhow. It is not like I was not surprised these years about what some other people think, so who knows... Maybe someone with experience in marketing could explain how it is done.

Re: Prism

#432
post #405

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What the OP was talking about is the negative connotation that goes with the word; it's certainly a poor choice from a marketing point of view. You may say it's "silly to obsess", but it's like naming a product "Auschwitz" and saying "it's just a city name" -- it ignores the power of what Geffrey N. Leech called "associative meaning" in his taxonomy of "Seven Types of Meaning" (Semantics, 2nd. ed. 1989): speaking tha…

Well, I don't know anything about marketing and you might have a point, but the severity of impact of these two words is clearly very different, so it doesn't look like a good comparison to me. It would raise quite a few eyebrows and more if, for example, someone released a Linux distro named "Auschwitz OS", meanwhile, even in the software world, there are multiple products that incorporate the word prism in various…

And of course The prism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prism_(optics)

I remember the NSA Prism program, but hearing prism today I would think first of Newton, optics, and rainbows.

Re: Prism

#433
post #406

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>Has the technical and scientific community in the US already forgotten this huge breach of trust? Have you ever seen the comment section of a Snowden thread here? A lot of users here call for Snowden to be jailed, call him a russian asset, play down the reports etc. These are either NSA sock puppet accounts or they won't bite the hand that feeds them (employees of companies willing to breach their users trust). Edit…

What Snowden did was heroic. What was shameful was the world's underwhelming reaction. Where were all these images in the media of protest marches like against the Vietnam war? Someone once said "Religion is opium for the people." - today, give people a mobile device and some doom-scrolling social media celebrity nonsense app, and they wouldn't noticed if their own children didn't come home from school.

Looking back I think allowing more centralized control to various forms of media to private parties did much worse overall than government surveillance on the long run.

For me the problem was not surveillance, the problem is addiction focused app building (+ the monopoly), and that never seem to be a secret. Only now there are some attempts to do something (like Australia and France banning children - which am not sure is feasible or efficient but at least is more than zero).

Re: Prism

#434
post #330

This is going to be the concrete block which finally breaks the back of the academic peer review system, i.e. it's going to be a DDoS attack on a system which didn't even handle the load before LLMs. Maybe we'll need to go back to some sort of proof-of-work system, i.e. only accepting physical mailed copies of manuscripts, possibly hand-written...

Or it makes gatekeepers even more important than before. Every submission to a journal will be desk-rejected, unless it is vouched for by someone one of the editors trusts. And people won't even look at a new paper, unless it's vouched for by someone / published in a venue they trust.

Re: Prism

#435
post #389

This is a actual prompt in the video: "What are the papers in the literature that are most relevant to this draft and that I should consider citing?" They probably wanted: "... that I should read?" So that this is at least marketed to be more than a fake-paper generation tool.

I felt the same, but then thought of experts in their field. For example, my PhD advisor would already know all these papers. For him the prompt would actually be similar to what was shown in the video.

Re: Prism

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Which proves its own points! Absolutely genius! The cost asymmetry of producing and checking for garbage truly is becoming a problem in the recent years, with the advent of LLMs and generative AI in general.

Totally agree! I feel like this means that working in any group where individuals compete against each other results in an AI vs AI content generation competition, where the human is stuck verifying/reviewing.

> Totally agree!

Not a dig on your (very sensible) comment, but now I always do a double take when I see anyone effusively approving of someone else's ideas. AI turned me into a cynical bastard :(

Re: Prism

#437

I'm dumbfounded they chose the name of the infamous NSA mass surveillance program revealed by Snowden in 2013. And even more so that there is just one other comment among 320 pointing this out [1]. Has the technical and scientific community in the US already forgotten this huge breach of trust? This is especially jarring at a time where the US is burning its political good-will at unprecedented rate (at least unprece…

Considering OpenAI is deeply rooted in anti-freedom ethos and surveillance capitalism, I think it is quite a self aware and fitting name.

Re: Prism

#438
post #375
post #330

This is going to be the concrete block which finally breaks the back of the academic peer review system, i.e. it's going to be a DDoS attack on a system which didn't even handle the load before LLMs. Maybe we'll need to go back to some sort of proof-of-work system, i.e. only accepting physical mailed copies of manuscripts, possibly hand-written...

Handwriting is super easy to fake with plotters.

Is there something out there to simulate the non-uniformity and errors of real handwriting?

Re: Prism

#440

I'm dumbfounded they chose the name of the infamous NSA mass surveillance program revealed by Snowden in 2013. And even more so that there is just one other comment among 320 pointing this out [1]. Has the technical and scientific community in the US already forgotten this huge breach of trust? This is especially jarring at a time where the US is burning its political good-will at unprecedented rate (at least unprece…

OpenAI has a former NSA director on its board. [1] This connection makes the dilution of the term "PRISM" in search results a potential benefit to NSA interests.

[1]: https://openai.com/index/openai-appoints-retired-us-army-gen...

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