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Post by HDThoreaun »

maxerickson wrote: post #289
simonsarris wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eli Lilly has GLP-1 injectables and will have an oral pill this year. Novo Nordisk has already dropped that ball. Hence Eli Lilly +40% in the last year and Novo -23%. Or on a longer timescale you can see the problem: https://www.google.com/finance/quote/NVO:NYSE?sa=X&sqi=2&ved...

What should they have done differently to prevent a competitor from entering a valuable market? "Pricing power fell when someone else entered the market" isn't dropping a ball is why I ask.

Novo nordisk's biggest mistake was refusing to create a direct to consumer business. Eli Lilly sells most of their product through their website at large discounts, this superior distribution method is largely how they were able to gain such a large market share. Their product is also better than ozempic, so that definitely helped too. But its not like Novo Nordisk was stuck with ozempic, they couldve developed new advancements as well.

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Post by yoyohello13 »

garganzol wrote: post #315
kubb wrote: post #287

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Or you’ll find out that strong men thinking in memes create even worse times.

In any case, that's the beauty of life: we live the consequences. Both sweet and bitter, depending on choices of the past.

The annoying part is when I’ve got to live with the consequences of someone else’s choices.

Re: Statement by Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, the Netherlands,Norway,Sweden,UK

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Post by TurdF3rguson »

duxup wrote: post #409
TurdF3rguson wrote: post #352

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Annexing territory was actually way more common back then. US bought the US Virgin Islands from Denmark at around that time.

I think that was much more a cooperative agreement type situation than childish threats like we have now. I'm not opposed to changes in territory in principle... but there's no principles involved in the current US administration acting out like a fragile child.

Threats are always a part of negotiations. There was also a proposal to trade Greenland for 1/3 of the Philippines (which the US got from Spain just for showing up to a war that nobody wanted).

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Post by Keyframe »

randallsquared wrote: post #274
Keyframe wrote: post #204

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I wonder how the current events in Greenland will impact the safety and sovereignty of Taiwan. That was my thought as well. It's a dangerous rhetoric being displayed by USA. "We need this land for our security". Turns out, what if other powers start using the same rhetoric? Russia did it already for Ukraine, China might say "We need Taiwan for our security".. where does it stop and ultimately it leads absolutely nowh…

China already claims Taiwan, and has for decades; the only thing keeping it practically separate is uncertainty over the outcome in various dimensions if China tries to take it militarily. I don't think there's any doubt that if they were sure they could take it relatively bloodlessly and without significant repercussion, they would do so immediately.

You're right, of course. What I'm saying is what happens if anyone with any lethal force proclaims they need territory which isn't theirs for their own security. Dangerous rhetoric and extremely dangerous precedent if this plays out.

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Post by tetrisgm »

anttiharju wrote: post #111

I would like to live in less historical times. I'm a Finn.

True. But if the shit gets real, you guys are the best in the world to deal with it. Plenty of Russians at the bottom of the lakes to attest that.

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Post by ben_w »

fatbird wrote: post #417
oliwarner wrote: post #302

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The US has some grace here as most of the negative feelings towards it dies with it's government. You're going to pick better next time, right?

Trump's passing and his admin getting tossed won't erase the memory that a good third of America was always happy with him and wanted what he actually did. America is now branded with MAGA in a way that will take generations to fade.

At this point, I'd say terms rather than generations.

I mean, I'm old enough to remember people saying "Never Forget" about 9/11, but it's barely in any discourse at this point, and that was a single generation ago and had two major wars a bunch of PoW scandals, war crime scandals that led to Manning, and domestic surveillance that led to Snowden. And yet, despite all that, I've only heard 9/11 mentioned exactly once since visiting NYC in 2017, and that was Steve Bannon and Giuliani refusing to believe that Mamdani was legitimate.

So, yeah, if Trump fades away this could be forgotten in 8 years or so; if this escalates to a war (I'm not confident, but if I had to guess I'd say 10% or so?), then I see it rising to the level of generations.

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Post by dingaling »

legitster wrote: post #217

Even all of the purely imperialistic stated reasons for taking Greenland make no sense. National security? We already have the right to station as many troops there as we want! And we have actually removed troops recently. Mineral rights? America is already richly endowed - its just impossible to access what we have when permitting is almost impossible. If there were actually valuable lodes in Greenland, it would pro…

> We already have the right to station as many troops there as we want!

Only at Thule. The 2004 re-agreement rescinded the unrestricted establishment of bases:

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/04-806-Denm...

It significantly emasculated the 1951 agreement:

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/den001.asp#art2para...

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Post by saubeidl »

cjonas wrote: post #49
saubeidl wrote: post #3

Americans, your Mad King is putting us all in grave danger. Would you please do something about it?

You have no idea what it's like to be American right now. The propaganda information war that's being waged in us is overwhelming and it appears to be working. The world needs to start preparing for a reality where the US can no longer be relied on for security or economic stability. For the sake of all of us, I hope that our European allies are taking serious steps to become more independent from US power and securi…

I know there is a lot of good and brave people in the US - I lived there for a long time and call many of your compatriots good friends.

We're trying our best over here, but y'all can't give up at home either. I know it sucks and it's hard, but don't give into the temptation to just tune out. If you don't like what is happening with your country, do your best to change it - don't wait for others to do it for you!

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