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Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by ksec »

ksec wrote: post #121
jasongill wrote: post #9

It's $12.99/mo or $129/yr for a subscription that includes Final Cut Pro, Logic Pro, Pixelmator Pro, Motion, Compressor, MainStage, Keynote, Pages, and Numbers Educational discount with verification required drops the price to $2.99/mo / $29.99/yr. The regular-price subscription includes family sharing, education price does not. One-time purchase versions remain available: Final Cut Pro ($299.99), Logic Pro ($199.99)…

>Comes out January 28th I wonder why? Why not today but 28th of Jan? Part of me thinks M5 MacBook Air and M5 Pro MacBook Pro will also be released on January 28th.

Well I guess either Great Mind thinks alike or they just read my HN comment

https://9to5mac.com/2026/01/14/apple-may-have-hinted-at-a-hi...

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by seec »

tomovo wrote: post #199

It's a pity Apple didn't choose to acquire Affinity when there was a chance. Pixelmator Pro looks like a toy app compared to Logic or Final Cut. I don't see how it could ever catch up to Photoshop. Even at such small scale it's always been very buggy in my experience and development seems to have stalled (apart from some obligatory AI features). I am glad the standalone purchases are still available and I assume they…

Yeah, in my experience, Pixelmator looks the part but isn't a very good software, especially for vectors. Affinity stuff doesn't look as good but gets much closer to Adobe quality tools.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by seec »

miguel-muniz wrote: post #419

Multiple thoughts on this: 1.0 Creating a software bundle is the expected play by a company that keeps trying to grow their subscription revenue, but lots of creators are fed up paying an arm and a leg for software they'll never own that they need to do their job. Canva turned a lot of heads and got new people into Affinity just by making it free, I would have liked to see Apple lead with the same pitch rather than m…

Agreed.

I feel like if you were to be content with those tools, you wouldn't really want to pay for them. I guess the argument is getting access to Final Cut and Logic for cheap, but there are pro software of the same quality accessible for free or close to it (usually people get starter DAW licenses from buying hardware, and DaVinci has free stuff).

Apple is losing the plot on so many levels. If they want to make their stuff subscription, they really need to make it much better than it is at the moment.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by MattRix »

simjnd wrote: post #251
MattRix wrote: post #144

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I don’t think they look awful, and they’re more interesting and opinionated than most boring icons you see these days.

They're definitely awful compared to the icons they're replacing. Losing so much identity and detail.

Eh not sure I agree. The former icons are definitely unique, but not consistent or cohesive at all, especially when viewed as a group.

I think these new icons will grow on people. There were similar negative reactions back ~15 years ago when Adobe switched to their minimalist icon style.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by apgwoz »

dbbk wrote: post #424
apgwoz wrote: post #320

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I think Apple killed Aperture primarily because it was confusing to have iPhoto and Aperture with largely overlapping workflows. Aperture had the loupe view, and side by side comparison stuff, saved color grading tools (I think?), sure, but it wasn’t differentiated enough to justify a Pro designation. I think it makes more sense for Photomator features to be absorbed into Photos… and maybe Photos gets some new Pixelm…

I don't think it's actually confusing to a professional at all

Not to a professional, no. But this isn’t iMovie vs Final Cut. Aperture was only slightly above where iPhoto was going in capability. They should have raised the iPhoto/Photos bar a lot more to get back to where Aperture was, though.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by Towaway69 »

Towaway69 wrote: post #68
thecupisblue wrote: post #21

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That's actually surprisingly cheap compared to other subscriptions in the industry, especially for such a high powered suite.

Undercut the competition until there is no competition, then raise prices or have I missed something? Ah, yes - cross finance your loses by selling compute in your own data centres / hosting service because you can.

Most of the comments here demonstrates the lack of abstraction abilities here at HN.

My comments weren’t related to whether apple has data centres or not (afaik they don’t and actually use google hardware).

My comments were related to a business model used by amazon to destroy local shops in our neighbourhoods: offer products at vastly reduced prices, making a loss but covering those losses by profiting on aws. Once there is no competition left, prices rise and shareholder profits are made.

Hence my conjecture that apple was doing the same and hence they were offering this product at undercut price. As was the OP was wondering about.

I was actually criticising the business model increasingly used by big tech. Which has the consequences that are neighbourhoods are emptied out and left with stores that act as amazon package pickup stores or stores where packages are returned to be sent back to amazon.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by alwillis »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #427
alwillis wrote: post #206

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> It’s cheap enough it’s not enough to fund development of Final Cut but also not enough money to bother spending time on it. Find it odd personally, just offering them free to keep hardware makes more sense than trying to push a tiny subscription revenue number. Apple doesn't work that way. Unlike almost all other tech companies that are organized by divisions, Apple uses a functional organizational structure. So al…

> you can afford to do things for reasons other than the amount of money you could make. This is what I'm saying and why I don't see the point in charging at all for these apps. The existence of the subscription price tag on them is evidence against what you're claiming.

> The existence of the subscription price tag on them is evidence against what you're claiming.

I disagree. Apple doesn’t need the money, but they also know consumers don’t value free apps the same way they do for pay apps.

It also plays into people’s desire for something better than what everyone has. Everyone gets Numbers, Pages and Keynote for free, but if you subscribe, you get bonus content and features.

So while Apple doesn’t need this to be a blockbuster product, they’re not going to leave money on the table either.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by qingcharles »

yardie wrote: post #350
qingcharles wrote: post #247

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Ah, I've been mooching off an old library card for years to rent books for my Kindle. Finally got an email saying "Just pop into your local branch to renew this year." Ah...

You have to renew them? I've been using the same card since '03. I went in a 2 years ago to pay my fine for a book lost in the couch cushion for a few months. Librarian thought it was quaint that I still have my old tattered library card.

This was Chicago. I believe a lot of people had managed to get online cards without physically being in the city and they decided to call it in and get everyone to renew in person to see who was still legit.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by dopamean »

embedding-shape wrote: post #64
jasoneckert wrote: post #51

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The most important benefits in my opinion are choice and price - people like me who prefer to buy software outright can still do so at a reasonable cost, while others who opt for a subscription can also do so (again, at a reasonable cost).

It's pretty clever that they keep the "pay one time" option still alive while announcing the availability of subscription, so anyone who says "Boo, not you too Apple" can easily be shut down with "You still have the option to buy it!" instead of leaving those critics without answers. Of course, they'll eventually remove the option to buy the software by paying once, I think everyone can see the writing on the wall, b…

This is such a strange way to think about what was done. Rather than just being happy they kept the pay once option and saying that's good you're imagining critics who how Apple can "shut them down."

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by butterisgood »

jasongill wrote: post #9

It's $12.99/mo or $129/yr for a subscription that includes Final Cut Pro, Logic Pro, Pixelmator Pro, Motion, Compressor, MainStage, Keynote, Pages, and Numbers Educational discount with verification required drops the price to $2.99/mo / $29.99/yr. The regular-price subscription includes family sharing, education price does not. One-time purchase versions remain available: Final Cut Pro ($299.99), Logic Pro ($199.99)…

I thought Keynote, Pages, and Numbers were complimentary. Or part of an iCloud subscription or something. Is that changing?
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