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Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Post by andy_ppp »

baxtr wrote: post #289
cush wrote: post #159

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> Gemini is objectively a good model (whether it's #1 or #5 in ranking aside) so Apple can confidently deliver a good (enough) product Definitely. At at this point, Apple just needs to get anything out the door. It was nearly two years ago they sold a phone with features that still haven't shipped and the promise that Apple Intelligence would come in two months.

What are the top 3 features you’re missing right now?

I should be able to completely control my phone with voice and ask it to do anything it is capable of and it should just work:

"Hi Siri, can you message Katrina on WhatsApp that Judy is staying 11-15th Feb and add it to the shared Calendar, confirm with me the message to Kat and the Calendar start and end times and message."

Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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qcnguy wrote: post #417
aurareturn wrote: post #409

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It’s such a commodity that there are only 3 SOTA labs left and no one can catch them. I’m sure it’ll be consolidated further in the future and you’re going to be left with a natural monopoly or duopoly. Apple has no control over the most important change to tech. They have control to Google.

Four. You forgot xAI. And that's ignoring the Chinese labs.

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Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Post by aurareturn »

qcnguy wrote: post #417
aurareturn wrote: post #409

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It’s such a commodity that there are only 3 SOTA labs left and no one can catch them. I’m sure it’ll be consolidated further in the future and you’re going to be left with a natural monopoly or duopoly. Apple has no control over the most important change to tech. They have control to Google.

Four. You forgot xAI. And that's ignoring the Chinese labs.

Chinese labs aren’t SOTA due to lack of compute.

Yes I forgot xAI. So 4 left. I’m betting that there will be one or two dominant ones in next 10 years. Apple won’t be one of them.

Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Post by cush »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #427
cush wrote: post #159

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> Gemini is objectively a good model (whether it's #1 or #5 in ranking aside) so Apple can confidently deliver a good (enough) product Definitely. At at this point, Apple just needs to get anything out the door. It was nearly two years ago they sold a phone with features that still haven't shipped and the promise that Apple Intelligence would come in two months.

> At at this point, Apple just needs to get anything out the door To the extent Cupertino fucked up, it's in having had this attitude when they rolled out Apple Intelligence. There isn't currently a forcing function. Apple owns the iPhone, and that makes it an emperor among kings. Its wealth is also built on starting with user problems and then working backwards to the technology, versus embracing whatever's hot and…

> There isn't currently a forcing function

Sorry but if there wasn’t a forcing function then “Apple Picks Gemini to Power Siri” wouldn’t be the headline

Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Post by taspeotis »

baxtr wrote: post #289
cush wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Gemini is objectively a good model (whether it's #1 or #5 in ranking aside) so Apple can confidently deliver a good (enough) product Definitely. At at this point, Apple just needs to get anything out the door. It was nearly two years ago they sold a phone with features that still haven't shipped and the promise that Apple Intelligence would come in two months.

What are the top 3 features you’re missing right now?

Could it just fucking work? "Hey Siri turn on the [room name] room lights" and it gives me a positive chime and ... doesn't turn any lights on? In any of my rooms?

Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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baxtr wrote: post #289
cush wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Gemini is objectively a good model (whether it's #1 or #5 in ranking aside) so Apple can confidently deliver a good (enough) product Definitely. At at this point, Apple just needs to get anything out the door. It was nearly two years ago they sold a phone with features that still haven't shipped and the promise that Apple Intelligence would come in two months.

What are the top 3 features you’re missing right now?

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Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Post by sandytoast »

cush wrote: post #372
baxtr wrote: post #289

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What are the top 3 features you’re missing right now?

I'll bite 1. Have a user interface. Sometimes I'll ask a question and Siri actually provides a good enough answer, and while I'm reading it, the Siri response window just disappears. Siri is this modal popup with no history, no App, and no UI at all really. Siri doesn't have a user interface, and it should have one so that I can go back to sessions and resume them or reference them later and interact with Siri in mor…

Isn’t its voice the ui? It should respond using the same context of the request. Voice and natural language.

If you ask for a website it should open a browser.

Edit: everything else spot on

Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Post by smallmancontrov »

baxtr wrote: post #289
cush wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Gemini is objectively a good model (whether it's #1 or #5 in ranking aside) so Apple can confidently deliver a good (enough) product Definitely. At at this point, Apple just needs to get anything out the door. It was nearly two years ago they sold a phone with features that still haven't shipped and the promise that Apple Intelligence would come in two months.

What are the top 3 features you’re missing right now?

Elementary anti-spam.

Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Post by sandytoast »

mschuster91 wrote: post #385
bigyabai wrote: post #357

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That further proves my point that they are monopolies that cannot survive without protectionist intervention.

In the current US environment, no one can survive going against Trump, and as recently evidenced, this is meant literally. The US, for all intents and purposes, is now a kleptocracy. Rule of law, freedom of speech, even court orders, all of that doesn't matter any more in practice. There will always be some way for the federal government to strong-arm anyone into submission.

Not with that attitude they can’t. Let’s see what happens to the first person to call his bull shit. If jpow folds or is actually indicted, you may be right. Let’s see what happens with Exxon though i think they’re gonna bend the knee.

Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

cush wrote: post #434
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #427

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> At at this point, Apple just needs to get anything out the door To the extent Cupertino fucked up, it's in having had this attitude when they rolled out Apple Intelligence. There isn't currently a forcing function. Apple owns the iPhone, and that makes it an emperor among kings. Its wealth is also built on starting with user problems and then working backwards to the technology, versus embracing whatever's hot and…

> There isn't currently a forcing function Sorry but if there wasn’t a forcing function then “Apple Picks Gemini to Power Siri” wouldn’t be the headline

> if there wasn’t a forcing function then “Apple Picks Gemini to Power Siri” wouldn’t be the headline

A pair four-trillion dollar companies striking a deal in the hottest technology space since the internet getting headline treatment is not evidence of a forcing function.

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