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Sick of smart TVs? Here are your best options

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What’s wrong with never configuring the WiFi for it?

...Not a damn thing. Makes you wonder if people on here connect their smart tv to the net just to find a complicated solution to make it dumb again. Someone is going to run in here talking about how smart TV's randomly connect themselves to wifi, which is absolutely nonsense. HN things I guess.

It depends on the manufacturer, but a lot of new ones show pop ups until you connect to a network

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> It's basically a linux computer with a huge screen Why would I want a Linux computer with a huge screen? I just want a huge screen. I’ll provide my own connected devices, independent of the screen.

Why wouldn't you want it to be a computer? Then it can be connected to your devices AND also do the job itself in a situation where it's awkward to connect to a device. If already needs a computer in it to drive menus / modern display protocols. Having that computer be powerful enough to also decode content is barely an extra cost.

> Why wouldn't you want it to be a computer?

The same reason I don't want anything else in my life to be a computer. A computer is one more component that can fail and take down the whole product. I want my computer to be a computer and that's it.

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I looked into this. If I am remembering correctly the price was higher. It is just easier to connect a mini PC to an hdmi port and bypass all of the built in TV functionality.

Yes, the price is higher, maybe partially because it's not ad-subsidized. I was happy to pay it, this is what I bought: https://www.sharp.eu/sharp-nec-multisync-e868 There's historical speculation that a smart TV could connect to an open wireless access point, or more realistically, that it refuses to operate without internet access, perhaps after a certain number of power on hours.

How'd you wind up buying it? All the options like that I can find start with "Get a Quote".

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How would you block ads on such a TV? The problem is you still cannot connect it to the internet without unknown privacy intrusion... Maybe to the LAN only? But then it's usefulness is still limited.

hosts file block?

Block what? Which domains? How do you know what the TV will connect to?

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How would you block ads on such a TV? The problem is you still cannot connect it to the internet without unknown privacy intrusion... Maybe to the LAN only? But then it's usefulness is still limited.

Pi hole is enough for me on a modern Samsung

So, entirely orthogonal to the issue of rooting the TV?

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For the tech-savvy, I'm not too worried about smart TVs. I just do this: > If you want premium image quality or sound, you’re better off using a smart TV offline. In the future, if they add e-sims, we'll just remove them or de-solder or whatever. The real risk is cars: if they start not working without cell network connections.

> The real risk is cars: if they start not working without cell network connections. Given how limited cell service is in a lot of the US, I think we're a ways off from this.

Not too far off, apparently 5G modems on T-mobile's service can try using StarLink now

https://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/satellite-phone-service

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What do you use for a remote for the Mac Mini?

I have a Lenovo used minipc connected to mine and I just use a Logitech K400+, it runs Linux with KDE. I will never need a smart tv, or want one, for that matter. I get that people would rather have a remote but I personally actually don't like remotes at all. My TV is basically a screen only.

Yeah the problem with a keyboard and trackpad is you need the lights on.

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Seems like there is a big opportunity here for something a router distro to combine with a tv jailbreak. How good is the hardware? It would be nice to have my tv serve a couple purposes if it has the hardware to do it.

It's a modest ARM CPU, I wouldn't rely on it for a router but it can run Rpi Hole! Also Home Assistant integration, I use the TV remote to control LEDs/lights around the apartment

I totally forgot about the remote. That really opens up possibilities for home assistant type stuff. I hadn't looked at this space a lot before. I see some articles on how to jailbreak various devices but nothing about standardized distros to put on things out there. Something like dd wrt but for TVs could be pretty amazing. A project that is designed to give you a good interface, is privacy aware and hacker friendly (things that aren't just entertainment like home assistant stuff) would get a lot of interest. There has to be a reason this isn't a thing. I am guessing it is 99% a hardware reason. Maybe that is changing though? Modern devices have to have more capability so I bet the hardware on newer tvs is getting pretty strong.

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For a hacker news article, it misses the crucial option - hacking a smart TV! I have LG OLED jailbroken using rootmy.tv, it was pretty trivial. It's basically a linux computer with a huge screen, you can customize it, SSH into it, map any commands to the remote, etc. Before I only used monitor, simple DP/HDMI input is all I wanted. But being able to take full control of the tv and connect it with other devices in the…

Jailbreaking is definitely an option, but there is value in spending money to provide a market signal instead.
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