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Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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I see a lot of "mickey mouse" but if this is Disney IP, then it includes Star Wars and Marvel, no? You can literally make your own Marvel movie now! Legally!

If you read the release, it explicitly does not include the likenesses of human actors. Only animated and illustrated characters are included. (Although, that does cover animated/illustrated versions of characters that are typically portrayed by human actors...)

This is almost certainly due to the photographic/human likenesses of actors being under an entirely separate license and royalty contract than pure IP from Disney.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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I never thought this could happen, especially after the "Ghibli scandal". OpenAI has pulled a majestic business move. They got to allow people to generate Disney characters without issue AND will give 1 billion dollars to OpenAI? Now the internet will be flooded by Disney character's videos, and since they don't have to pretend they didn't train on their intellectual property anymore I'm really curious to see where t…

> Now the internet will be flooded by Disney character's videos How is Disney okay with this anyway? They've sent their lawyers after daycare centers who dared to paint a picture of a Disney character on their walls. Why are they suddenly going to ignore me prompting a video of Winnie the Pooh hitting the bong?

They smell blood in the water and just bought their next gen studios for $1B

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Dysneys characters are entering the public domain, they can either cash out now or not at all. Mickey mouse is now copyright free, pluto is in two weeks, then pretty much the whole roster by 2030 https://michelsonip.com/news/disney-characters-in-the-public...

Mickey Mouse's character design as of 1930 is in the public domain. But if you ask an AI image model for "Mickey Mouse", you'll probably get something based on more recent versions of the character which are still copyrighted.

Like I said, wait four years and all the main characters most recognised incarnations will be in the public domain.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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If 3 or 4 competitors can all provide a mostly identical product, isn't that a commodity? That is essentially the case right now, with the different companies playing around with UI, integrations and business model.

If all models were equal then sure. But for professionals who use these to solve complex problems and need correctness above all? The models and weights are not equal and interchangeable.

I use them every day for coding and Gemini 3 pro, Opus 4.5, and GPT 5.1 (haven’t tried 5.2 yet) are basically identical in terms of ability. Opus 4.5 has a slight edge in my personal experience so far.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

#436
Wait, so let me get this straight.

Altman got Disney to pay OpenAI, via an investment, for Sora -- which was likely trained on and used to generate infringements of all kinds of their copyrighted material.

And then Disney sends Google a Cease & Desist for using its copyrighted material, not only restricting what people can do with Google's AI image generators, but which could potentially also force Google to retrain all their models without Disney content.

Very likely Disney will reach a licensing deal with Google, which would conveniently finance Disney's investment in OpenAI.

And all this on the heels of the coup where Altman simultaneously signed a deal with Samsung and SK Hynix to lock up 40% of the world's DRAM supply, effectively cornering a key component for AI training hardware.

As I've said before: All these others are playing Capitalism. Altman out there playing Game of Thrones.

/popcorn

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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>I say this with no snark or disdain: Sam has mastered the art of the flywheel. It's been his entire career. Guy has made billions of dollars from talking.

Yeah, he’s a sociopath

He's taking from Disney and Microsoft though so I see no moral issues.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Disney is buying equity from OpenAI. You frame it as "giving OpenAI money" because you hold a (quite insane) assumption that OpenAI's equity is worth nothing.

> Disney is buying equity from OpenAI. Can you buy equity from OpenAI without also giving OpenAI a license to use your IP? Even if the equity is worth $1 billion, how much is Disney's IP license worth?

>"how much is Disney's IP license worth"

It unspoken business model is giving an IP license to anyone that can breathe at make a rev share agreement or hefty sum - so, less than you think.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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> Now the internet will be flooded by Disney character's videos How is Disney okay with this anyway? They've sent their lawyers after daycare centers who dared to paint a picture of a Disney character on their walls. Why are they suddenly going to ignore me prompting a video of Winnie the Pooh hitting the bong?

Dysneys characters are entering the public domain, they can either cash out now or not at all. Mickey mouse is now copyright free, pluto is in two weeks, then pretty much the whole roster by 2030 https://michelsonip.com/news/disney-characters-in-the-public...

  > Mickey mouse is now copyright free
Not true.

Scroll down on this page[0] and you'll see the different Mickeys and most of them are not under copyright. You got Steamboat Whillie + gloves but no Fantasia Mickey or later. Definitely no red-pants version.

Unsurprisingly Disney knows what they're doing and they have 95 years to modify a character's looks (and how the public imagines that character) before it enters public domain.

  > pluto is in two weeks
Not the Pluto you're thinking of...[1]

[0] https://web.law.duke.edu/cspd/mickey/

[1] https://www.disneydining.com/disney-copyright-loss-pluto-202...

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