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Re: Microsoft increases Office 365 and Microsoft 365 license prices

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Suggesting libreoffice as an alternative to Office 365 is crazy.

Why? What feature does office 365 have that is so difficult to replace? I'm guessing support but... is there something more obvious? Full disclosure, I haven't used microsoft office in a few decades.

"Full disclosure, I haven't used microsoft office in a few decades."

and thats the problem, the fair comparison would be like You replace AWS with hetzner vps

Re: Microsoft increases Office 365 and Microsoft 365 license prices

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I know that modern office has xlookup and other niceties, but if you're not a power user Office 97 off archive.org is like 200mb installed, works just fine on win 10 or under wine, and has the benefit of being written 28 years ago so on a modern computer everything happens imperceptibly fast. I installed the 97 suite like 2 or 3 years ago and I've never looked back.

Office 2003 supports OOXML rather than the proprietary binary blobs that are office 97 formats.

Re: Microsoft increases Office 365 and Microsoft 365 license prices

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I cancelled my personal O365 subscription for this reason, even though I prefer Word to LibreOffice and the crap my Mac provides-- it wasnt just they raised the price, it was the new "AI" features they kept pushing.

When I cancelled, I made it clear why I was doing it. But I doubt anyone reads the feedback we provide

Re: Microsoft increases Office 365 and Microsoft 365 license prices

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> The cost and complexity and the effort required to switch away from M365 is massive. I'd say further to that is there literally isn't a similar product that exists to switch to. Nobody has developed a real alternative. It seems like most companies are more than willing to leave this entire market to Microsoft.

Microsoft is a buffet. You can get anything you want but it’s rare people leave a buffet saying “Man that food was great!” Usually people go to different places for different things of better quality. This is clear because there are lots of very successful competing products to Microsoft’s buffet. The only moat I’d say Microsoft actually has is Excel. And maybe Powerpoint. Everything else can be replaced easily and o…

"Microsoft is a buffet. You can get anything you want but it’s rare people leave a buffet saying “Man that food was great!”"

Tell this to all office alternative lmao

I tried them all and all they do is sucks, even the strongest competitor is (google docs,sheet) feels "lacking"

Re: Microsoft increases Office 365 and Microsoft 365 license prices

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I know that modern office has xlookup and other niceties, but if you're not a power user Office 97 off archive.org is like 200mb installed, works just fine on win 10 or under wine, and has the benefit of being written 28 years ago so on a modern computer everything happens imperceptibly fast. I installed the 97 suite like 2 or 3 years ago and I've never looked back.

Office 2003 supports OOXML rather than the proprietary binary blobs that are office 97 formats.

Good to know! I pretty much only use it for excel w/ (C|T)SV files and to make word art so I hadn't noticed.

Re: Microsoft increases Office 365 and Microsoft 365 license prices

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How did it get this way? A million years ago we had Microsoft Office, PerfectOffice, Lotus SmartSuite, Lotus Symphony (which became one of the free suites), and others I can't remember. Then we had a bunch of Java and web versions built of various office appplications. It would be a massive undertaking to create a new office suite from scratch.

It’s the horizontal integration across Entra, not the Office experience, that is the lock in

This! It’s of course a lock in, but a very important feature for governance, nonetheless.

Re: Microsoft increases Office 365 and Microsoft 365 license prices

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Here in NZ, pretty much all medium/large businesses and govt departments have gone all-in with M365. Most govt departments are on the E5 licence, and have also started to roll out the Copilot licences too. The cost and complexity and the effort required to switch away from M365 is massive. It's not just using a different version of Excel and Word - that's the least of the issues. It's all the data stored in SharePoin…

I suspect my country is the same. I expect most countries are the same.

Is there basically any expectation that the US government doesn't know the internal goals and thoughts of all other governments just by reading the cloud?

Re: Microsoft increases Office 365 and Microsoft 365 license prices

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I know that modern office has xlookup and other niceties, but if you're not a power user Office 97 off archive.org is like 200mb installed, works just fine on win 10 or under wine, and has the benefit of being written 28 years ago so on a modern computer everything happens imperceptibly fast. I installed the 97 suite like 2 or 3 years ago and I've never looked back.

XLOOKUP is so nice though. The other stuff I can live without, especially the UI on data connections changing all the time and the connections breaking anyway.

Word 97 was basically feature complete though (if buggy - the same bugs persist today of course), including track changes and compare/merge documents. The killer feature now is being able to work on the same document with multiple people and seeing their changes in realtime. You used to be able to do this on-prem but that product (Office Online Server) got killed. I wonder why.

Re: Microsoft increases Office 365 and Microsoft 365 license prices

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post #240

Here in NZ, pretty much all medium/large businesses and govt departments have gone all-in with M365. Most govt departments are on the E5 licence, and have also started to roll out the Copilot licences too. The cost and complexity and the effort required to switch away from M365 is massive. It's not just using a different version of Excel and Word - that's the least of the issues. It's all the data stored in SharePoin…

I suspect my country is the same. I expect most countries are the same. Is there basically any expectation that the US government doesn't know the internal goals and thoughts of all other governments just by reading the cloud?

Russia is definitely not the same. I suspect they are still largely using (pirated) Microsoft products but cloud services hosted abroad are a big no-no.

Re: Microsoft increases Office 365 and Microsoft 365 license prices

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post #360

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And decided that it was cheaper and easier to just outsource it to Microsoft. Because doing it in today's environment - different work computers, backend servers, mobile devices, etc - is much more complicated than just managing permissions on a mainframe.

Distributed databases are a solved problem (besides maybe performance). Offloading account management to arbitrary databases too. Why everyone is using Microsoft is, because then they have someone to blame, instead of needing to point at themselves.

ActiveDirectory is million times better than any other solution on the market.
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