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Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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Shoutout to https://localsend.org/ - it can even open a local webserver if needed.

One of those apps that "just works". Been using it recently to share files between an Android phone and my Mac. Turns out it works better than Airdrop itself when I couldn't send a file from my iPhone to my Mac. Great user experience as well.

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I don’t understand why printing is still so difficult in 2025

It’s not if you pay the price. I have a Brother printer (inkjet) and it literally just works. I can go months without printing anything, then I just print a document from my phone or laptop and it just works. This is something that should be normal but I’m still amazed every time I use it because I had an Epson before and the experience was… not the same.

+1 for Brother. Works flawlessly without any drivers. The only pain point is the setup - I have the cheapo laser one without any screen, and AFAIK you need Windows software for the initial WiFi setup. After this, it's not needed anymore.

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This is based on Wi-Fi Aware: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Alliance#Wi-Fi_Aware Some background: https://www.ditto.com/blog/cross-platform-p2p-wi-fi-how-the-... On the Apple side, this was prompted by the EU Digital Markets Act: https://digital-markets-act.ec.europa.eu/questions-and-answe...

I'm pretty sure this is just incorrect. According to the linked report[1], they tested it for compatibility with OpenDrop, so I think they simply implemented AWDL. That might also explain the limited Pixel 10 rollout, if it required a specific WiFi chipset/firmware. [1] https://www.netspi.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/google-fea...

That's what was confusing to me. It's one thing for Apple to add wifi aware by force, it would be another for them to completely reimplement Airdrop with it. I don't think they were required to do that.

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LocalSend requires the devices to be on the same local network. TFA is about file sharing using a direct device-to-device wireless connection.

We've had ad-hoc WiFi for about 3 decades, but that requires a level of device access that no gatekeeper will agree to anymore.

Well, one gatekeeper. Wifi direct/aware seems to work fine outside of iOS and Mac os.

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No, not at all. Someone even implemented AirDrop in Python before[1]. In fact, nothing ever needs such special hardware. It's a decision of the implementer if they'd like to get fancy and rely on such hardware in their implementation to change its security profile, but the iPhone at the other end or any Apple infrastructure would be none the wiser - they just see that they're getting appropriately signed or encrypted…

Relies on OWL which does have specific hardware requirements

No, OWL only appears to have specific driver requirements, namely that they expose to userspace functionality that any remotely modern WiFi chip should already have.

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Waayy back in 2009 we had Bump [1], which allowed transfer between devices and later web apps as well – by banging your phone against the spacebar. It worked 98% of the time and was faster than AirDrop is today, even though we only had 3G. Google acquired it and immediately killed it. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_(application)

Waaay back when in Japan, sekigaisen (infrared) was a verb meaning to transfer contact details or photos or whatever between phones via infrared. It was amazing how fast the iPhone took over Japan and killed off their quirky phone ecosystem. Edit: want to emphasize that it was totally ubiquitous. Every phone has it

And in Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal on GameBoy Color you could send Mystery gifts via IR!

Someone even ported it to an emulator! https://shonumi.github.io/articles/art11.html

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You are not Apple's target audience, and there is nothing wrong with that.

The problem is that because fleecing dummies is so profitable, it encourages the same scummy behavior by other companies.

Calling an extremely broad user segment dummies is unreasonably condescending.

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Just a tip - You can put any string as your name for your Apple ID. you can also change it at any time. I have it as Mac Book. It's not checked when making any credit card payment, AFAIK.

Is anything but the zip code actually checked ever? Besides the number and cv2 or whatever.

Well, for example, I can set Stripe Radar to hard match the name on the CC, for example. Very granular control is possible, but doing stuff like checking zip codes, names leads to false negatives and isn't worth it, in my experience.

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~a month ago I saw a comment on HN someone stating that the only possible way to send data from computer to phone is to convert it to base64, open it in a text file (several pages), photo them, OCR them and convert them back on the phone.

The comment got deleted shortly after, but I like the idea of someone actually trying to send data from computer to phone, failing, and settling on this method

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