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I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla

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Re: I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla

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Post by Muromec »

boplicity wrote: post #116
jve wrote: post #43

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> Does anyone want AI in anything? I want in Text to speech (TTS) engines, transliteration/translation and... routing tickets to correct teams/persons would also be awesome :) (Classification where mistakes can easily be corrected) Anyways, we used TTS engine before openai - it was AI based. It HAD to be AI based as even for a niche language some people couldn't tell it was a computer. Well from some phrases you can…

Automatic captions has been transformative, in terms of accessibility, and seems to be something people universally want. Most people don't think of it as AI though, even when it is LLM software creating the captions. There are many more ways that AI tools could be embedded "invisibly" into our day-to-day lives, and I expect they will be.

For a few days now Im getting super cringe robot voice force dubbing every youtube video in Dutch. I use it without being logged in and hate it a lot.

Subtitles are good zo

Re: I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla

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Post by neural_thing »

andy99 wrote: post #70
everdrive wrote: post #4

Does anyone want AI in anything? I can see the value of navigating to an LLM and asking specific questions, but generally speaking I don't want that just running / waiting on my machine as I open a variety of applications. It's a huge waste of resources and for most normal people is an edge case.

The existence of the features doesn’t bother me. It’s the constant nagging about them. I can’t use a google product without being harassed to the point of not being able to work by offers to “help me write” or whatever. Having the feature on a menu somewhere would be fine. The problem is the confluence of new features now becoming possible, and companies no longer building software for their users but as vehicles to…

I was super mad about the help me write thing to, so I built https://owleditor.com - check it out!

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Post by taeric »

jdeibele wrote: post #298
andy99 wrote: post #70

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The existence of the features doesn’t bother me. It’s the constant nagging about them. I can’t use a google product without being harassed to the point of not being able to work by offers to “help me write” or whatever. Having the feature on a menu somewhere would be fine. The problem is the confluence of new features now becoming possible, and companies no longer building software for their users but as vehicles to…

I just finished listening to the first episode of "Acquired" on Google and it ended with Google pushing Google Plus into everything in an effort to compete with Facebook in social networking. It really hampered all their other offerings. https://www.acquired.fm Acquired podcast does long (2 4-hour episodes on Google) episodes on various companies, mostly tech but recently Trader Joe's

The debacle that was Google Wave into Google Plus is... really hard to really come to terms with. I don't even know that Hubris is enough to explain how badly managed that time period was by them. Just so bad.

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Post by ratelimitsteve »

if my car comes with the ability to start normally but also an alternate mode where, by deisgn, it explodes and kills my entire family is that providing me with freedom of choice in my automobile experience? am I in control because I have the option to do things I would never under any circumstances actually want to do? or is someone trying to convince me that i'm in charge because I get to pick from a menu they wrote?

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Post by phplovesong »

everdrive wrote: post #4

Does anyone want AI in anything? I can see the value of navigating to an LLM and asking specific questions, but generally speaking I don't want that just running / waiting on my machine as I open a variety of applications. It's a huge waste of resources and for most normal people is an edge case.

Honestly, i have never got any real benefit from an AI. I tried it on multiple occasions, but compared to my pre-ai life, AI has not really improved anything.

AI is basically only a shortcut to wikipedia, and i always anyway have to double check any AI response, making it kind of useless.

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Post by cptskippy »

> They’re calling it “Window AI.”

Was this intentional or just a complete lack of attention to detail? Even their own screenshot contradicts this.

Does it matter? Yes. "Window AI" suggests there is an AI manager, where as "AI Window" suggests an isolated environment.

Re: I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla

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Post by nickff »

everdrive wrote: post #4

Does anyone want AI in anything? I can see the value of navigating to an LLM and asking specific questions, but generally speaking I don't want that just running / waiting on my machine as I open a variety of applications. It's a huge waste of resources and for most normal people is an edge case.

Customers want humans to perform each menial task, while paying almost nothing for that privilege, so that they can have the satisfaction of screaming at someone when a mistake is made.

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Post by godelski »

DaSHacka wrote: post #307
metabagel wrote: post #299

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I don't understand why anyone would choose Chrome over Firefox. I get that it's performant, but it's developed by a dominant advertising company. Why would you trust Chrome if you care about your privacy? Firefox is excellent, despite the grumbling of people who want it to have a narrower focus (which I'm not disagreeing with).

> if you care about your privacy? I think you just answered your own questions.

Then explain Brave then. They market as privacy but it has similar issues being chromium. The most critical being that by being chromium Google still gets to dictate how the internet works

Re: I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla

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Post by jlarocco »

It kills me that they leave out features desired by more or less everybody (like ad-block), while they add completely superfluous features like AI and Pocket to the core of Firefox.

It's a joke. If ad-block has to be a plugin, AI should be a plugin. Let people decide for themselves if they want to AI in their browser.

Re: I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla

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Post by Maken »

netsharc wrote: post #173
cwillu wrote: post #129

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And will that work permanently, or will I have to hunt down another setting in another month when they stuff it into another workflow I don't want it in?

Every time I update Google Photos on Android, it asks me "Photos backup is turned off! Turn it on? [so you use up your 15 GB included storage and buy more for a subscription fee?]".

Every time you update? How about Maps asking if you want to use advanced location every time you open it?
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