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I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by Scoundreller »

Johnny555 wrote: post #239
Scoundreller wrote: post #221

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That's funny. Code in Ontario Canada is that the fridge needs to be on its own circuit. It's funny because we have an extra-big-ass inverter drive fridge that never draws more than an amp or two, even at startup because it's inherently soft-start. Just a waste of copper and a beaker really.

>Just a waste of copper and a beaker really. But also helps avoid the case where your coffee maker trips the breaker shared with your refrigerator and you don't notice until the food in the refrigerator is warm. (which was a risk in my previous apartment - the counter circuits were shared with the refrigerator). I think it makes sense to have it as a separate circuit.

My thought was to share it with the lights, so you get an early indication if/when there is a fault than just your fridge going out.

> But also helps avoid the case where your coffee maker trips the breaker shared with your refrigerator and you don't notice until the food in the refrigerator is warm.

Didn’t notice the coffee was cold?

Overall, given the massive fears of a fridge failure, which can happen beyond just electrical failures, very very very few people have any kind of monitoring/alarming for this event. You’d think that would be the first requirement.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by DANmode »

HumanOstrich wrote: post #159
hammock wrote: post #137

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I wouldn’t use rinse aid. It’s not good for you - damages your gut and may contain dioxane byproducts. I also would avoid detergents with ethoxylated alcohols (AEs). What to look for is any powder or powder-filled pod with a) no AEs and b) does contain amylase and protease , two food-eating enzymes that are often omitted for who knows why. 365 Whole Foods brand pods are my go-to

[Several citations needed]

Are you a chemist, an investor, a pro-additive experiments?

Why?

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by DANmode »

y-curious wrote: post #248
selcuka wrote: post #177

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"This isn't a scam" means that rinse aid works. It doesn't imply anything regarding its safety. There is some research (see my other comment) hinting that industrial level use can be harmful (households dilution levels are probably fine).

Wait til you hear about the dangers of using industrial amounts of dihydrogen monoxide :p

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Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by jfim »

red-iron-pine wrote: post #362
hebelehubele wrote: post #325

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For long videos, I have a script that fetches the transcript using yt-dlp and pipes it to an LLM for keypoints. If the content sounds interesting, I watch it; if not, I save 45 minutes.

sweet jesus share that script. there are a lot of YT vids that can be summed up essentially in 2 sentences and I don't need to see 4 ads first. YT's actual AI summary is useless, arguably net negative

If you want to build a quick one, it's yt-dlp to download the video, whisper to transcribe the audio, and Claude code have it summarize the transcript.

I'm not at my computer RN but I'll share it later.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by DANmode »

refulgentis wrote: post #347
UnserMannInK wrote: post #332

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By „make coffee“ I meant „use the coffee maker as usual, without ground beans but with detergent in the water“. The fume/steam is surely not healthy if inhaled directly and up close, but then again your dishwasher vents those same fumes into your kitchen untreated in much larger quantities than a 200ml coffee maker possibly can. I regularly use things to clean that I am more worried about, such as bleach, acetone, tu…

I don't know, man. I don't have a theoretical explanation, especially one that won't be batted away by another theoretical explanation. I just feel like there's better ways to clean your coffee maker than putting dishwasher detergent/powder/whatever in it and running a coffee making cycle. Sounds like a horrible * idea. * I should offer a "why" - off the top of my head: if it rinsed out that quick, why does the dishw…

They may elect to wait and ask Darwin.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by pempem »

WorldMaker wrote: post #402
magicalhippo wrote: post #277

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> But the whole thing is that if you follow some sequence of steps, powder will clean as well as or better than pods for a third the cost. YMMV. Based on the earlier videos, I did switch back to powder, and I did follow the steps of putting some powder in the main compartment for the pre-wash. And i did try several powders. Yet, none of the powders were anywhere near as good as the tablet we use. It also doesn't cont…

> It also doesn't contain any nasty chemicals, unlike several of the powders At least in the US my experience has been the reverse of that. Several of the companies seem to have used the pods as an excuse to increase the number of chemicals that require chemical burn labels on the packaging and switch "Best By" dates to very literal "Use By" dates. With those pods, there's a thin water-soluble plastic that is also pr…

I've been trying paper for about 2 years now and its been great. Works about the same, feels the same, no pods. Its quite a nice experience.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by abracadaniel »

losvedir wrote: post #83
383toast wrote: post #2

summary: The creator argues that most dishwashers are designed to use a pre-wash dose and a main wash dose of detergent, a fundamental often ignored by single-dose pods, and presents independent ASTM testing confirming the new powder matches or exceeds the performance of a leading premium pod. The video also features a detailed demonstration using temperature logging and peanut butter to stress the importance of purg…

This has been his stance for a long time. He has a lot of dishwasher videos for some reason! One thing I can't get a good answer to is whether the "prewash" step is universally the case or not. I have a good Bosch dishwasher and there's no compartment for a bit of pre-wash detergent. I don't even know if my dishwasher cycle has a pre-wash step. I would assume the dishwasher manufacturer knows what's best. The owner's…

If the detergent container has a door, then that means the soap is dispensed later, which means there is a pre-wash stage it’s trying not to waste the detergent on.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by UnserMannInK »

refulgentis wrote: post #347
UnserMannInK wrote: post #332

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By „make coffee“ I meant „use the coffee maker as usual, without ground beans but with detergent in the water“. The fume/steam is surely not healthy if inhaled directly and up close, but then again your dishwasher vents those same fumes into your kitchen untreated in much larger quantities than a 200ml coffee maker possibly can. I regularly use things to clean that I am more worried about, such as bleach, acetone, tu…

I don't know, man. I don't have a theoretical explanation, especially one that won't be batted away by another theoretical explanation. I just feel like there's better ways to clean your coffee maker than putting dishwasher detergent/powder/whatever in it and running a coffee making cycle. Sounds like a horrible * idea. * I should offer a "why" - off the top of my head: if it rinsed out that quick, why does the dishw…

I can understand your reservations, „running a coffee making cycle“ makes it sound as if it is some kind of machine - which it isn’t. It’s one of these percolators, made of stainless steel, that you put on your stove to make coffee. Look up „Bialetti Moka“ and you get the idea, it’s really quite simple.

The reason why the dishwasher takes so long is that it takes time to break down the grime. Same in the coffee maker. There is a deep crevice in the coffee compartment that cannot be cleaned mechanically because you can’t really reach it (clearly a design flaw if you ask me). But remaining coffee tends to build up there and over time it affects the taste. Using detergent and letting it sit overnight breaks down this oily residue and leaves it shiny as new. Then you take the whole thing apart, gaskets and all and thoroughly rinse it. If I put the coffee maker into the dishwasher it would be the exact same chemicals (ok, at 70 instead of 100 degrees Celsius) plus less thorough rinsing. But no one would object.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by CupricTea »

hammock wrote: post #137
spondyl wrote: post #84

Hah! I had watched this just last night. I have a Fisher & Paykel Dishdrawer so this prompted me to check the instruction manual and sure enough, I had been putting Rinse Aid in the pre-wash area. I don't even really know what Rinse Aid is honestly but it's fun having some things be a black box. Turns out the correct spot is turning a knob, pulling it out and pouring it down a hole containing a glowing red light. I h…

I wouldn’t use rinse aid. It’s not good for you - damages your gut and may contain dioxane byproducts. I also would avoid detergents with ethoxylated alcohols (AEs). What to look for is any powder or powder-filled pod with a) no AEs and b) does contain amylase and protease , two food-eating enzymes that are often omitted for who knows why. 365 Whole Foods brand pods are my go-to

Not only is there an extremely small amount of rinse aid that is dispensed in the final rinse, but even less of it would be present once the dishes are dry. The paranoia over it theoretically affecting your gut lining in the amounts used as directed is hogwash.

Without rinse aid your dishes will never be even remotely dry unless you manually wipe them dry yourself.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by solsane »

arjie wrote: post #130

I love that there are people who will go into this much detail on stuff. It's really cool that they do. But the whole thing is that if you follow some sequence of steps, powder will clean as well as or better than pods for a third the cost. All right, this isn't a significant portion of my expenses so I'll pay the 3x cost since my dishes come out clean anyway. I wish the description of the video was like an abstract.

I find that the pods are less effective, even without following those steps. (Disclaimer: I use gel)
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