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Free software scares normal people

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Re: Free software scares normal people

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To me, this reads as: "My friends wanted to convert videos to MP4, so I made a small GUI for them to do just that. Now I'm writing an article explaining how everything in the world can probably be solved by a single drag-and-drop and a single button".

BTW, if all you can do it drag-and-drop a file, do you need the "convert" button?

Re: Free software scares normal people

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IMO they just don’t care enough. They want people to use it but it is not the end of world if it stays niche

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I think you got everything backwards. I've seen a lot of people who are specialized in a non software domain learn programming and write their own projects. Very often these people know more about what they want to accomplish and work on than someone who has learned how to do software development properly, but has no clue about what software to develop.

I was that type of person when I started working. I had a burning passion to work on an open source project, but no clue what exactly to work on. Meanwhile at work the project manager gives me a ticket I'd execute rapidly to everyone's satisfaction.

Re: Free software scares normal people

#433
That's broadly the same reason I created LLDAP. It's the 20% of features of an LDAP server that 80% of users need.

It's been hard pushing back and saying no to all the new features. We've started work on a plugin API so that people can add features and opt in to the complexity.

Re: Free software scares normal people

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And why exactly should free software prioritise someone's first five minutes (or first 100 hours, even) over the rest of the thousands of hours they might spend with it? I see people using DAWs, even "pro" ones made by companies presumably interested in their bottom lines. In all cases I have no idea how to use it. Do I complain about intuitiveness etc? Of course not. I don't know how to do something. That's my probl…

> And why exactly should free software prioritise someone's first five minutes (or first 100 hours, even) over the rest of the thousands of hours they might spend with it? Well, if people fail at that first five minutes, the subsequent thousand hours most often never happens.

Those people will not use software designed for professional use and move to something else.

Re: Free software scares normal people

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> They should focus on streamlining actual workflow of actual people. If you streamline a shitty process, you will have diarrhea... Unfortunately, most processes suck and need improvement. It isn't actually IT's job to improve processes. But almost always, IT is the only department that is able to change those processes nowadays since they are usually tied to some combination of lore, traditions, spreadsheets and mis…

That's precisely the mistake I'm talking about. You think you're smarter than people on the ground, and know better how they should do their job. It's because of that condescending, know-it-all attitude that people actively avoid getting IT involved in anything, and prefer half-assed Excel hacks. And they're absolutely right. Work with them and not over them, and you may get an opportunity to improve the process in w…

The problem with hackish solution is that they get put in places they don’t belong. In other professions, there’s regulation in place to prevent these kind of shortcuts.

Also, if you have ever worked with anyone trying to get specifications worked out, you’ll see that most people (including devs) rely on intuition rather than checklists and will always forget to tell you something that is critical.

The thing is that cost of changes in the business can be a simple memo. But for software that usually means redesign.

Re: Free software scares normal people

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It's one of the main features, just incoherently rambled and backwards. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Free_Software_Definition#T... > The freedom to study how the program works, and change it to make it do what you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this. Free software can be audited for backdoors. Closed can not. Their backdoors will stay there indefinitely.

disassembler and decompilers exist.

This statement is ridiculous.

Re: Free software scares normal people

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I think you got everything backwards. I've seen a lot of people who are specialized in a non software domain learn programming and write their own projects. Very often these people know more about what they want to accomplish and work on than someone who has learned how to do software development properly, but has no clue about what software to develop. I was that type of person when I started working. I had a burnin…

No I think we are on the same page.

The people who specialized in non-software domain, and wrote their own projects, are amazingly talented.

They are not specializing in 1 field. They are so smart, they've managed to specialize in 2 fields.

I bet you they also suck at UI design. And wrote projects like Handbrake.

It's totally understandable.

I don't expect them to have the time to specialize in THREE fields. There is an opportunity cost to everything.

Re: Free software scares normal people

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This is a weird thread for me to read, as someone who a) works primarily with developer tooling (and not even GUI tooling, I write cryptography stuff usually!), b) is very active in a vibrant community of artists that care about nerd software projects. I don't, as a rule, ever ask artists to contribute for free, but I still occasionally get gifted art from kind folks. (I'm more than happy to commission them for one-o…

It’s a long story, in my case. There’s a very good reason for me to be asking for gratis work. I regularly do tens of thousands of dollars’ worth of work for free.

That only works if you form a team with the artist. It doesn't work when the person you're commissioning free stuff from is an external artist who is getting flooded by both paid and unpaid requests. Even a token amount will let them know to prioritize you over the freeloaders.

Re: Free software scares normal people

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disassembler and decompilers exist.

This statement is ridiculous.

A music CD installing a stealthed persistent kernel-level rootkit on your Windows PC would also be ridiculous, yet that's exactly what Sony BMG's rootkit in 2005 did. And guess how it was found?

Re: Free software scares normal people

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Proposing a CLI command as a candidate for "simplest UI ever" is a great gag.

Come on. "type ffmpeg, then hyphen i then the input filename then the output filename". I would've understood this when I was 8. Because I was super smart? No, because I was making a genuine effort.

Type what into where?
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