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Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by woodruffw »

0xfaded wrote: post #52

To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…

I'm sympathetic to all of this except the part about DynamoRIO: I've barely seen people compile DynamoRIO successfully on Windows and Linux, so struggles on macOS don't seem that unusual. It seems like a marginal case to ding the Mac on.

(I have a handful of patches in DynamoRIO.)

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by jrochkind1 »

coolspot wrote: post #388
throwaway894345 wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would be about a 15% increase, which is probably in the ballpark to be explained by tariffs (either existing or anticipatory)?

Apple is exempt from US-China tariffs. https://www.npr.org/2025/04/12/nx-s1-5363025/apple-iphone-ta...

wait what. i had no idea. These tarrifs are a shitshow.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by xpe »

whycome wrote: post #150
SomeUserName432 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been on a mac for ~4 years now. It was a bit of a struggle to get used to it, coming from windows. The only thing I really miss now is alt-tab working as expected. (It's a massive pain to move between two windows of the same program)

Apparently i'm the only one who didn't know about cmd+`

Poking around System Settings > Keyboard > Keyboard Shortcuts… > Keyboard is a pretty good place to browse if you haven't. There are default keybindings that can changed and switched on/off. For macOS Sequoia 15.6:

    [ ]  Change the way Tab moves focus            ⌃F7
    [ ]  Turn keyboard access on or off            ⌃F1
    [ ]  Move focus on the menu bar                ⌃F2
    [ ]  Move focus on the Dock                    ⌃F3
    [ ]  Move focus to the active or next window   ⌃F4
    [ ]  Move focus to the window toolbar          ⌃F5
    [ ]  Move focus to the floating window         ⌃F6
    [*]  Move focus to next window                  ⌘`
    [ ]  Move focus to status menus                ⌃F8
    [ ]  Show contextual menu                      ⌃↩
I only have one checked currently; I'm not feeling adventurous.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by foxandmouse »

thewebguyd wrote: post #198
0xfaded wrote: post #52

To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…

> The window manager. I'm not a fan of all the animations and needing to gester between screens (and yes, I've been down the hotkeys rabbit hole). To install a 3rd party window manager, you need to disable some security setting because appearantly they work by injecting into the display manager and calling private APIs. Specifically for this, there's Aerospace ( https://github.com/nikitabobko/AeroSpace ) which does n…

Thanks for sharing Aerospace, can’t believe I overlooked it! It’s like finding out someone fixed half the things that make macOS feel like a beautiful prison .Somehow it makes the whole OS feel less… Apple-managed.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by jablala »

SomeUserName432 wrote: post #111
coldtea wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. Sounds more like a you problem, probably due to unfamiliarity. There are endless options for local dev on a Mac, and a huge share of devs using one.

I've been on a mac for ~4 years now. It was a bit of a struggle to get used to it, coming from windows. The only thing I really miss now is alt-tab working as expected. (It's a massive pain to move between two windows of the same program)

Well I have some good news, look up the AltTab MacOS tool. It does exactly what you're after and it has been a life saver for me.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by kalleboo »

leakycap wrote: post #260
WXLCKNO wrote: post #114

Pretty funny how they're actively targeting M1 users with their marketing copy with this release. Sorry you made your first gen chip so good that I don't feel the need to upgrade lol.

> Sorry you made your first gen chip so good that I don't feel the need to upgrade M1 MacBooks are ~5 years old at this point, and if you've been working a laptop hard for 5 years it's often worth getting an upgrade for battery life as well as speed.

I spilled a sugary coffee drink in my keyboard, and having it replaced under AppleCare+ meant they also replaced half the rest of the machine (battery, display etc). I think I'm set for another 5 years.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by [deleted] »

Sharlin wrote: post #356
heavyset_go wrote: post #328

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I've used Macs for 20 years starting on the day 32-bit Intel Macs were released, and agree with the GP. Linux and Plasma spoiled me, going back to macOS and its windowing system feels like a step backward, especially for development, where using multiple windows is a must. Task switching is.. not good? I don't get window previews I can switch through when I hover over the dock, but I do on Linux. Yes, I know about Ya…

> Task switching is.. not good? I don't get window previews I can switch through when I hover over the dock, but I do on Linux. That just sounds like being accustomed to one way of switching tasks, honestly. If I want previews, I use Expose (three-finger swipe up/down or ctrl-up/down). But mostly I just use cmd-tab and haven't really needed to see previews there. Because macOS switches between applications , not wind…

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Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by B1FF_PSUVM »

leakycap wrote: post #229
kondro wrote: post #197

Just give me cellular in a MacBook Air already Apple if you want me to insta-buy! Bonus points for OLED. Air’s don’t have to be just cheap. I want a thin and light premium laptop for walking around and a second Mac (of any type) for my desk.

I'm guessing carriers/networks can't handle a fleet of MacBooks-with-cellular yet. The data workload would be sustained and intense with macOS not having the type of system-level cellular framework/data control as iPad and iOS (I have used the low data mode on macOS, it helps but only handles a small part of the problem). I have bought cracked-screen iPhones since Personal Hotspot allowed wired connections back in th…

> cracked-screen iPhones

Sheesh, what do you have against MiFi 4G pocket routers?

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by nevster »

leakycap wrote: post #260
WXLCKNO wrote: post #114

Pretty funny how they're actively targeting M1 users with their marketing copy with this release. Sorry you made your first gen chip so good that I don't feel the need to upgrade lol.

> Sorry you made your first gen chip so good that I don't feel the need to upgrade M1 MacBooks are ~5 years old at this point, and if you've been working a laptop hard for 5 years it's often worth getting an upgrade for battery life as well as speed.

My 2021 16" M1 Max is at 85% battery - which is still totally fine for me.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by rtpg »

coldtea wrote: post #84
0xfaded wrote: post #52

To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…

> I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. Sounds more like a you problem, probably due to unfamiliarity. There are endless options for local dev on a Mac, and a huge share of devs using one.

Stuff like the containerisation story on Macs is so miserable. The fact that so many devs use Docker and on Mac and pay the orders of magnitude file costs (or do a bunch of other shenanigans) really makes for an unfun experience.

Really wish someone could have figured out something a bit better in that space in particular. Docker compose is a "least worst" option for setting up a project with devs when many are uncomfortable with other solutions, but it really takes the oxygen out of anything that might "work"

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