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Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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It could be replaced with a fucking web app if they built it properly the first time around.

Do you know a good way to do geofencing on PWAs? I'm not saying you can't, but I don't know of any API that can accomplish that (without constantly running GPS location updates in the browser, which no standard phone will allow).

I'm unfamiliar with these apps. What is geofencing used for? Automatically alert you if there is ICE activity nearby so that you can drop what you're doing to converge ?

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Google disputes that: https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/09/lets-talk-...

For clarity, they're requiring apps to be signed by a verified developer on certified Android devices. You can still side load, but the verification is still required for the side loaded apps.

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Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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I don't see the problem. It was an app specifically developed to help people evade American law and attack people who work for the government, how is it a shock that they took it down?

Apple maps tells you when you are near a cop on the highway in order to evade the law.

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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> to remove an app that allowed people to evade law enforcement. No, they continued to allow police location apps (Google maps will even tell you where they are). The language they added to the app store rules were very specific: "Apps may only display DUI checkpoints that are published by law enforcement agencies, and should never encourage drunk driving or other reckless behavior such as excessive speed." Whether o…

What purpose outside abetting in avoiding a DUI is there for publishing a live map of DUI checkpoints? I’m not questioning whether you should be able to do it. I’m really curious.

You don't have to be driving impaired to have a strong desire to avoid the checkpoints. I avoid them because they're intrusive, oppressive, and upsetting.

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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PWAs can’t use Sockets, for one thing.

What on earth would you need that for in this instance? As a side note, when Apple finally gets their shit together WebTransport is excellent for most socket like use cases.

web transport requires HTTPS, which requires a domain name and PKI for everyone you connect to

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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post #383

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> to remove an app that allowed people to evade law enforcement. No, they continued to allow police location apps (Google maps will even tell you where they are). The language they added to the app store rules were very specific: "Apps may only display DUI checkpoints that are published by law enforcement agencies, and should never encourage drunk driving or other reckless behavior such as excessive speed." Whether o…

What purpose outside abetting in avoiding a DUI is there for publishing a live map of DUI checkpoints? I’m not questioning whether you should be able to do it. I’m really curious.

I’m returning home from the store with cold medicine for my toddler late at night and I don’t want to have my trip increased by 15mins due to some police state bullshit.

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Google is making it so sideloading APKs on Android is no longer possible. This is one of many great reasons why that should not happen.

https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/09/lets-talk-...

A government probably wouldn't have to push very hard for Google to revoke a dev's signing key, blocking apps signed with that key. So I don't see a difference. Technically sideloading will be possible, but Google will still have control of what apps can run on devices.

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Why are people so obsessed about apps. could be a website that couldn’t easily be taken down.

You can't send a push notification without a certificate that apple controls from a website. Push notifications seem to be key here so that you don't have the constantly open the app/webpage.

They could send a message instead (sms, email, etc) which then can be configured to pop up as a notification.
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