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Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by wlesieutre »

stakhanov wrote: post #428

Is the Mac Pro pretty much no longer a thing, going forward? -- Not trying to be a smartass, just asking out of genuine curiosity, because I know next to nothing about the Apple lineup. But the naming ("M2" vs "M5") would seem to suggest it's 3 generations behind the latest?

Yes, it mostly exists for people who absolutely require PCI slots, except you can’t use AMD/Nvidia GPUs anymore so the utility of that is limited.

Apple has their “Afterburner” card for ProRes media encoding, you could add even more ports, or there’s probably weird AV interface cards, but the vast majority of people can save a few thousand dollars and get a Mac Studio instead.

Since the Mac Studio has more than 10 customers it gets updated more frequently.

There were rumors about the Mac Pro getting a higher tier of “we stuck twice as many cores together in the SoC” but it didn’t pan out, likely not worth the development time compared to the higher volume products. But it could hypothetically still happen.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by chk84us »

ktosobcy wrote: post #422

I like the rise of ARM… first AMD and then "PC world" followed suite with Snapdragon. With the latest Elite I think that my next machine (after MPB M1, which is still perfectly fine machine in 2025) will be PC laptop with ~Snapdragon (or something similar) with Linux... I'm fedup with Apples more and more stupid changes and limitations :/ (I actually disabled automatic updates to avoid LiquidTahoe!) For me cool and s…

> I actually disabled automatic updates to avoid LiquidTahoe

Is there even a way to automatically upgrade to a major macOS version? Automatic update settings are only for minor/patch and security responses.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by jijijijij »

apercu wrote: post #14
hu3 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For $800 the M4 Air just seems like one of the best tech deals around. Only if you don't mind macOS.

I used to not, but it’s getting worse and worse. Still better than all the alternatives for someone like me that has to straddle clients expecting MS Office, gives me a *nix out of the box, and can run logic, reaper , MainStage.

> gives me a *nix out of the box, and can run logic, reaper , MainStage.

Reaper has a native Linux client. Logic and MainStage... are you serious? :D

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by noname120 »

necovek wrote: post #427
kjkjadksj wrote: post #308

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100gb ram usage? Why not build a pc?

Considering he's got a 16GB of RAM, this is virtual memory, and most programs don't need to keep it all loaded at all times (if they do, you'll notice with constant paging exception handling).

> My m1 16gb pro gets throttled (and manually restarted) every time

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by jijijijij »

ysleepy wrote: post #263
remix2000 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends how you frame it; in my eyes, I'd be paying $1.4k USD after sales tax (at least here in the EU) for a laptop with measly 16 gigs of RAM… I could buy two normal laptops to outperform that for a price of one!

The 16/256 M4 MacBook Air costs 850€ including 19% vat here in DE, so your numbers are way off or you live somewhere with very unfortunate peicing in the eu.

Certainly not from the Apple Store, where it's 1.199,00€.

Cheapest, I found was about 1000€. Buying a one-off offer from some random webshop, means you would have to deal with them in case of repairs or warranty issues.

And yeah, effectively max. 200GB non-upgradable SSD storage, certainly makes cheap offers likely, cause that's borderline unusable for almost everyone, who needs more than a web browser.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by torginus »

ktosobcy wrote: post #422

I like the rise of ARM… first AMD and then "PC world" followed suite with Snapdragon. With the latest Elite I think that my next machine (after MPB M1, which is still perfectly fine machine in 2025) will be PC laptop with ~Snapdragon (or something similar) with Linux... I'm fedup with Apples more and more stupid changes and limitations :/ (I actually disabled automatic updates to avoid LiquidTahoe!) For me cool and s…

Dunno I remember reading an article about one of the first Snapdragon PCs - they concluded that while the CPU side was pretty good (including, surprisingly availablity of native ARM ports, and x86 emulation), the GPU was far behind typical PC offerings in sophistication, and was unable to run the complex and compute shader heavy workloads required by modern games, shader compilers were buggy, and advanced features were missing or poorly implemented, which made it an expensive word processing machine.

I'm not sure if they fixed their newer GPUs but they really ought to.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by sgarland »

rapind wrote: post #55
cosmic_cheese wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reduced horsepower relative to M-series isn't a problem for me as much as efficiency is. Both Intel and AMD seem to struggle with building a CPU that doesn't guzzle battery without also seriously restricting performance. This really sucks. The nice thing about high end (Mx Pro/Max) MBPs is that if you need desktop-like power, it's there, but they can also do a pretty good job pretending to be MacBook Airs and str…

> On the desktop front I think AMD has been killing it but both companies need to start from scratch for laptops. IMO Apple is killing it with the mac mini too. Obviously not if you're gaming (that has a lot to do with the OS though), but if you're OK with the OS, it's a powerhouse for the size, noise, and energy required.

Even if you are into gaming, between native builds and Crossover, it’s quite capable. It’s not going to match a top of the line Windows build with a dedicated GPU, but it’s shockingly capable.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by kakacik »

torginus wrote: post #438
ktosobcy wrote: post #422

I like the rise of ARM… first AMD and then "PC world" followed suite with Snapdragon. With the latest Elite I think that my next machine (after MPB M1, which is still perfectly fine machine in 2025) will be PC laptop with ~Snapdragon (or something similar) with Linux... I'm fedup with Apples more and more stupid changes and limitations :/ (I actually disabled automatic updates to avoid LiquidTahoe!) For me cool and s…

Dunno I remember reading an article about one of the first Snapdragon PCs - they concluded that while the CPU side was pretty good (including, surprisingly availablity of native ARM ports, and x86 emulation), the GPU was far behind typical PC offerings in sophistication, and was unable to run the complex and compute shader heavy workloads required by modern games, shader compilers were buggy, and advanced features we…

You get cca the same graphics as top android phones get, which is pretty decent. Of course it won't compete with 5090 but who would expect that
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