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I gotta say, it's incredibly inconsiderate and thoughtless to publish the real time location of a bunch of public safety officers in an individually identifiable way. I understand the sentiment, and I appreciate the hackery... but you put these people at risk today. You need to think much more carefully about how you approach things like this in the future.
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> There should be no expectation of privacy for any public officer. So live public webcams in the employee restrooms in all government buildings? I would argue that public officers would retain personal privacy, but that such privacy cannot be a shield against the public for the government concealing substantive operations, and that the identity of public officers and the substantive means by which they are engaged i…
While personal privacy may be preserved outside the scope of public acts, an individual who, in the execution of official duties, operates vehicles displaying lights or sirens and wears official identification inherently waives any claim to geospatial privacy.
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Safeway? Sure. Mom-and-Pops? Not usually. How are small restaurants going to get their ingredients delivered if delivery trucks can’t park? Ok maybe in some locations they can park a few blocks away and deliver with hand trucks —but then they risk taking much more time to deliver and going back to a broken-in truck or van.
In Seattle there are 3-minute load/unload areas in the commercial pockets. This is a solvable problem. It’s not even hard.
I gotta say, it's incredibly inconsiderate and thoughtless to publish the real time location of a bunch of public safety officers in an individually identifiable way. I understand the sentiment, and I appreciate the hackery... but you put these people at risk today. You need to think much more carefully about how you approach things like this in the future.
Thank you for thinking about the safety of our neighbors. May I ask whether you've considered the unique vehicles the parking enforcement agents use? SFMTA is hard to miss in their 3-wheelers--believe it's the Westward Industries "GO-4" Interceptor. I may have a blind spot here (like someone with access to an armed drone fleet could have made use of the map?), but essentially all private citizens will see these unmis…
If it just showed where the cars were, that would be much better. Although still questionable IMHO.
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How do you think these public officials with massive paychecks and life long massive pensions operate; they drive around in the most noticeable little vehicles that you can spot from a mile away. If you needed to track them for some reason you would just follow them, and most likely people in the neighborhood probably already know their routes anyways. It seems you are fixated on something you just can’t let go, as i…
Massive paycheck? Feel free to apply yourself https://careers.sf.gov/classifications/?classCode=8214 I dont know how far 70-100k goes in SF, but accoriding to https://www.livingwage-sf.org/living-wage-calculator/ it is barely enough for a single adult, but you better not have a child!
You seem to lack perspective, probably because as most here, we all likely make well above what the average person makes around us. It can be forgiven as ignorance, but it's the same thing as the people around me who are worth 9+ figures who flatter their multiple staff with all kinds of pleasantries and benefits while paying them 6 figure salaries out of an odd poorly understood "guilt" or something that is prevalent among those who are better off than others.
I get your point, but reality is that under no objective perspective is $100k a bad income for what they do, especially since those "officers" pull in $90 million per year in citations.
But to answer your question, no, you will not be living in Sea Cliff on even $100k, but seriously, let's put into perspective what someone who drives around, looks, and then pushes buttons to print out a paper should be making. How many other people could be doing that job. I guarantee that it's not even a competitive position that hires in the best interest of the public.
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They are operating in public. They shouldn't have expectations of privacy. Are you against ICE agent tracking apps as well?
There's a difference between being in public and being tracked. Of course they don't have expectations of privacy in terms of people being able to e.g. take photos or videos of them. The same way people can take photos of you or me. But broadcasting someone's real-time location to the whole world all day long, in real time, is something else entirely. That has never been considered part of being in public. That's tar…
Might be a culture difference with europe but I find it rude if someone would take a picture of me without asking. I can think of few purposes (stalking, facial recognition training or tracking, sharing in a chat group to make fun of) that you can do with a picture of a random person on the street that you'd not get permission for when you're required to ask
It's always a balance: if someone wants to do it for legal reasons (I just stole their purse and am running away) that's very different. There's almost no law that works absolutely anyway, there can very often be overriding reasons that are already defined in the law (or another law) or that a judge will accept. Just talking about the default case
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If you don't think this tool poses any risk to these people let's try walk through a scenario. Let's say someone sees a parking warden they find physically attractive. They follow them for a bit and when they write up their next ticket, the stalker pulls up this app to get the officer's ID. The next day they pull up the app to see where the warden is working that day - they drive over there, and it takes them maybe h…
This is a wild hypothetical that tries to blame a tool for the problem of a user. Won’t anyone think of the children? Let’s modify your post to highlight the absurdity: Let's say someone sees a parking warden they find physically attractive. They follow them for a bit in their car and when they write up their last ticket, the stalker gets in their car and follows the officer back to the station and then to their home…
I gotta say, it's incredibly inconsiderate and thoughtless to publish the real time location of a bunch of public safety officers in an individually identifiable way. I understand the sentiment, and I appreciate the hackery... but you put these people at risk today. You need to think much more carefully about how you approach things like this in the future.
I disagree. There should be no expectation of privacy for any public officer. Things like this website, body cameras, and FOIA requests are all for the public good. Expose corruption and keep everyone safer with a little accountability.
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I couldn't downvote your direct reply to me, but if I could have I would have because you're being an ass. Calling me "perverted" because I don't think people should block bike lanes says way more about you than me.
Not wanting the bike lanes blocked is fine. The problem is that you want, as a means to this end, 100% enforcement of laws that were never written nor were their punishments apportioned with the expectation of such with zero regard for the consequences. That is a bad thing to be advocating for over such a mundane issue and I think it's belies a lack of moral character you often see in this subject of discussion (thou…
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Where I'm from there's no concept of towing on any parking violations. No one has the right to touch your vehicle, and if the police is involved they'd just contact the owner. The police would only move a car if it's a danger to the public. A tow truck is only something you'd call for assistance, not something you fear seeing. (Parking fines suck, but the municipal ones are usually more reasonable here, even if they…
Towing makes perfect sense when a car is blocking access. Parked in front of driveways for example.
Parking tickets are also considered fees, paid to those managing the parking area (municipality for public roads), as opposed to fines issued by the police or a judge and subject to very specific rules.