That is really cool. One thing I have to ask though. Does the Framework have the same problem as other bottom intake fans that collect dust inside the fan?
Framework Laptop 16
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#432That is really cool. One thing I have to ask though. Does the Framework have the same problem as other bottom intake fans that collect dust inside the fan?
It really depends on your usage environment, but one good thing is that its probably easier to clean the fans on a Framework Laptop than on most other laptops!
Re: Framework Laptop 16
#433Earlier quoted context omitted.
If they designed their keyboard ergonomically, they wouldn't need numpad modules. But yes, can't please everyone, too many people with low standards easily pleasable
As someone who has been stuck with 13 inch laptops for years, and loves numpads, this is categorically false. With even a day of practice you will massively overtake your numerical typing speed with a numpad. If you have issues with it, you can try putting the numpad module on the left. Some people swear by it.
Speaking of categorically false... How would you even know if you if you've been stuck with the default bad layout on 13 inch?
With a good layout your laptop would have keys laid out in a way that is even more comfortable than those of a standard standalone numpad (which ignores the difference in finger length), so your claim that worse layout is magically massively faster is just categorically implausible.
You're just likely confused because you compare numpad to the unergonomic horizontal 1234567890 number layer, but no, you'll have a bumps numpad layer at your fingertips, so count moving your hands right to a separate module and returning back left into typing speed as well...
Re: Framework Laptop 16
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#435Earlier quoted context omitted.
To me, it’s a positive quality.
Universally? Even if it leads to decades of rsi-health-dangerously poor manufacturing quality?
Also, asking for more is very rarely a form of altruism: no one asks for more to avoid (others) “decades of rsi-health-dangerously poor manufacturing quality”, it’s generally for one’s own benefit, nothing more.
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#436Earlier quoted context omitted.
Universally? Even if it leads to decades of rsi-health-dangerously poor manufacturing quality?
Depends on the context, but generally yes. It’s not new, it’s called asceticism, frugality, many other names I guess. Also, asking for more is very rarely a form of altruism: no one asks for more to avoid (others) “decades of rsi-health-dangerously poor manufacturing quality”, it’s generally for one’s own benefit, nothing more.
Re: Framework Laptop 16
#437Earlier quoted context omitted.
Depends on the context, but generally yes. It’s not new, it’s called asceticism, frugality, many other names I guess. Also, asking for more is very rarely a form of altruism: no one asks for more to avoid (others) “decades of rsi-health-dangerously poor manufacturing quality”, it’s generally for one’s own benefit, nothing more.
Well, you know the context: it's bad keyboards that cause health issues. Asceticism etc doesn't fit, such a person wouldn't even buy this new premium laptop model. The altruism angle is also puzzling - is it bad to look after your own health or what?
Well then, back to standard answer then: pick another laptop.
I really thought for a moment we were discussing the general crowd and why they should/could/must insist on ergonomic keyboards in general, but we misunderstood each other it seems.
Re: Framework Laptop 16
#438Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, you know the context: it's bad keyboards that cause health issues. Asceticism etc doesn't fit, such a person wouldn't even buy this new premium laptop model. The altruism angle is also puzzling - is it bad to look after your own health or what?
Ah, my mistake, you were talking about _your_ decades. Well then, back to standard answer then: pick another laptop. I really thought for a moment we were discussing the general crowd and why they should/could/must insist on ergonomic keyboards in general, but we misunderstood each other it seems.
> back to standard answer then This is not an answer to any of the questions. But you're right, standards of conversations are just as bad as those of hardware manufacturers
> I really thought for a moment we were discussing the general crowd
I was, but then you've made up a world where no one cares about anyone else, so tried to wipe that reality off your conceptual map.
Re: Framework Laptop 16
#439Earlier quoted context omitted.
As someone who has been stuck with 13 inch laptops for years, and loves numpads, this is categorically false. With even a day of practice you will massively overtake your numerical typing speed with a numpad. If you have issues with it, you can try putting the numpad module on the left. Some people swear by it.
> categorically false. With even a day of practice you will massively overtake your numerical typing speed with a numpad. Speaking of categorically false... How would you even know if you if you've been stuck with the default bad layout on 13 inch? With a good layout your laptop would have keys laid out in a way that is even more comfortable than those of a standard standalone numpad (which ignores the difference in…
Re: Framework Laptop 16
#440Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ah, my mistake, you were talking about _your_ decades. Well then, back to standard answer then: pick another laptop. I really thought for a moment we were discussing the general crowd and why they should/could/must insist on ergonomic keyboards in general, but we misunderstood each other it seems.
Nah, your mistake it much more basic - you confuse me with everyone or "is very rarely" with "never". > back to standard answer then This is not an answer to any of the questions. But you're right, standards of conversations are just as bad as those of hardware manufacturers > I really thought for a moment we were discussing the general crowd I was, but then you've made up a world where no one cares about anyone else…