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Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by CrimsonRain »

xyst wrote: post #375
ckemere wrote: post #227

I think that the negativity here is unfortunate. The reality is that it’s very hard to see a normal VC level return on the $100M+ Elon and friends have invested here. And don’t let anyone fool you - this is the fundamental reason the BCI field has moved slowly. If Neuralink proceeds to a scenario where quadriplegic patients can get reliable (ie lifelong) control of their computers for less than $100k that will be a h…

> The reality is that it’s very hard to see a normal VC level return on the $100M+ Nobody gives a shit about the iNvEsToR rEtUrN on iNveStMeNt. This is a humanitarian project which should be owned by the people, not a select few billionaires or investors to license out and dangle yet another expense, subscription, or ad model.

WHo iS SToPPiNg YoU?

Typical communist attitude.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by maxlin »

vasco wrote: post #338
maxlin wrote: post #270

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Companies like this going under is a horror story for the patients I've seen playing out a few times. But I honestly can't see something as public and well-funded having the same fate. "Elon Musk losing interest" isn't really something I see likely as he doesn't function in the money-oriented ways pretty much almost all other billionaire-types do. He loves the tech and the ideals, and Neuralink is past the point of e…

Ah yes he just became a billionnaire because he isn't money motivated and just loves tech. If only we all loved tech as much as Elon and money as little as Elon does.

If you stop and think for a second, SpaceX was the dumbest ticket to buy to win a lottery. Everyone else had failed. He says it himself; he's not a businessman. How his companies work with hype both for hiring and selling product should point out they aren't "normal".

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by maxlin »

LunaSea wrote: post #333
maxlin wrote: post #270

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Companies like this going under is a horror story for the patients I've seen playing out a few times. But I honestly can't see something as public and well-funded having the same fate. "Elon Musk losing interest" isn't really something I see likely as he doesn't function in the money-oriented ways pretty much almost all other billionaire-types do. He loves the tech and the ideals, and Neuralink is past the point of e…

> isn't really something I see likely as he doesn't function in the money-oriented ways pretty much almost all other billionaire-types do Is that why he sued to obtain his $29B package from Tesla shareholders?

What a crazy disinforming way to spin that story.

I was one of those shareholders who voted FOR that pay package with power of six figures worth of stock. He didn't "sue the shareholders"

Shareholders are strongly on Elon's side here, as they have always have been. The only reason there is a lawsuit is because some bent judge is trying to take the shareholder's power away from them and not grant the pay package. Absolute corruption.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by maxlin »

LunaSea wrote: post #387
sokoloff wrote: post #347

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I’m not the biggest Elon fan, but “man sues to receive the thing he earned over several years of accomplishment that made a lot of people a lot more money than they originally agreed to pay him” is something a lot of people are understandably sympathetic to.

> man sues to receive the thing he earned over several years of accomplishment that made a lot of people a lot more money than they originally agreed to pay him Do you have a source for this? As far as I understand, the bonus package represents a large part of revenue of all Teslas sold since the beginning. > is something a lot of people are understandably sympathetic to. Does he also need to pay back stocks when he…

Imagine people going around you and waiting to take photo of you calling a taxi a bit wonkily then using that as a proof to try to make your employer sue you for all you're worth. Everyone who even alludes to it as a salute is quite far deranged, especially if still talking about it

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Post by maxlin »

AtlasBarfed wrote: post #388
sokoloff wrote: post #347

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I’m not the biggest Elon fan, but “man sues to receive the thing he earned over several years of accomplishment that made a lot of people a lot more money than they originally agreed to pay him” is something a lot of people are understandably sympathetic to.

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>AtlasBarfed is a Nazi. He should not be commenting on Hacker News

see, I can make up stupid shit too.

People really claiming Elon is somehow a hinderance to the thing he created from scratch and where almost all shareholders are on his side is just hilarious...

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by ay »

cobbzilla wrote: post #377
ay wrote: post #363

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Do you notice any difference in thinking when you are “left eye active” vs “right eye active” in front of the screen or reading ? Asking because I have a much milder version of the situation that you describe (still within the boundaries to make it work without the glasses almost all the time), but I notice a weird “not the same” feeling when I am using not the eye I am used to.

Interesting, I hadn’t thought about that, and I haven’t noticed different thinking. But I switch back and forth all the time. Like writing this I’m using my nearsighted eye, but if I look across the room my vision switches to my farsighted eye (more or less instantly). The thing other people notice is after I’ve had a long day of screen time and am physically tired (long day, late night), and I’m out with friends, my…

Same here - but I can switch my vision for screen tasks to either only near-sighted (by being about 25cm away), or to far-sighted (by being about 70cm away). If I am doing that in the middle of the task, it feels a tiny bit “strange”.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by NoPicklez »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #312
jibal wrote: post #307

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One cannot measure calories out (other than deducing it from calories in and weight change), which is a complex function of diet, metabolism, and a host of other factors. As for the rest--your other posts implicitly assume that everyone else shares your choices and priorities--and if not then they aren't relevant. (BTW, there is strong evidence showing neither you nor anyone else knows what they would do after receiv…

> One cannot measure calories out (other than deducing it from calories in and weight change), which is a complex function of diet, metabolism, and a host of other factors. Sure, but when you eat sugar in several forms and overeat generally, you statistically get fatter. This works the other way round too. There are myriads of specific cases on the sides of the bell curve but the solution for the everyday Joe is to e…

> Sure, but when you eat sugar in several forms and overeat generally, you statistically get fatter. This works the other way round too. There are myriads of specific cases on the sides of the bell curve but the solution for the everyday Joe is to eat less, more healthily. Practicing sports helps too, but not so much (it is important for other health reasons)

Absolutely the issue is overeating, but you don't safely achieve good energy balance or even a calorie deficit by cutting out all forms of sugar.

You could increase your fat intake and still stay the same weight.

It's okay to reduce your sugar intake, or intake of simple sugars but removing sugar altogether isn't the right way to go.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by cobbzilla »

ay wrote: post #436
cobbzilla wrote: post #377

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Interesting, I hadn’t thought about that, and I haven’t noticed different thinking. But I switch back and forth all the time. Like writing this I’m using my nearsighted eye, but if I look across the room my vision switches to my farsighted eye (more or less instantly). The thing other people notice is after I’ve had a long day of screen time and am physically tired (long day, late night), and I’m out with friends, my…

Same here - but I can switch my vision for screen tasks to either only near-sighted (by being about 25cm away), or to far-sighted (by being about 70cm away). If I am doing that in the middle of the task, it feels a tiny bit “strange”.

Ah I see what you mean. For me I don't think there is any distance where both near & far eye could each have focus -- it's always too blurry in one or the other. I could see how being able to consciously switch would feel weird!

I'm curious -- if you held a stereogram at the right distance, could you see the 3D image? Or is it also like me, only one eye at a time?

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by maxlin »

ValentinPearce wrote: post #315
maxlin wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Companies like this going under is a horror story for the patients I've seen playing out a few times. But I honestly can't see something as public and well-funded having the same fate. "Elon Musk losing interest" isn't really something I see likely as he doesn't function in the money-oriented ways pretty much almost all other billionaire-types do. He loves the tech and the ideals, and Neuralink is past the point of e…

> he doesn't function in the money-oriented ways pretty much almost all other billionaire-types do I'm pretty sure he does, his actions in government and his lobbying were specifically so he made more money. He does love the tech, though I'm not as optimistic about his love of the ideals (but that might be the socialist in me talking). I'm am wary about how brain implants could be abused further down the line, but fo…

Recent things with the government could sell an image of political games. But then again, he has laid out a quite high effort reasoning behind his candidate's support outside any business relation, and has kept consistency on those beliefs. Don't see any real comparison to acting like this; Jensen & Co sure as hell would rather be strategically ambiguous or a weather vane than state controversial beliefs on podcasts "just for political games".

Also, no people of the class we're alluding to would found SpaceX knowing its very likely going to fail and will be an absolute waste of money and potentially risk their whole luxurious welfare.

Or do that twice, with Tesla having teetered as badly too. With him sleeping on the couches in the plants. And not just during crises, as he seemingly visits his operations every week if you see how much he makes good use of his jet.

He's an alien compared to the lot.

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