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Food, housing, & health care costs are a source of major stress for many people

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Re: Food, housing, & health care costs are a source of major stress for many people

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post #264

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This completely false talking point is a disease. "Normal" foods like rice and beans are dramatically cheaper than "junk" food.

You know, you make such a good point here. The easiest solve for this is for the fat poor people to simply eat rice & beans. That will surely fix both problems.

I think we are both in agreement.

Re: Food, housing, & health care costs are a source of major stress for many people

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> But the two largest costs to our finances are ridiculously outsized: Child Care and Health Care. I thought the same thing. We pay 5.5k for two kids per month. But then I looked at the regulations on professional child care. You need one certified worker and 250 sq.ft. of indoor space (in an expensive city) per 4 kids. After professional insurance, healthcare and other ancillary wage costs, there's really not that m…

>We pay 5.5k for two kids per month You can pay a fraction of that if you're ok with you paying cash and then learning Spanish. It won't have any of the administrative/compliance bloat either, if you catch my drift. >the only option would be billions in subsidies.

There's a huge "not grey market" tax for everything from childcare to construction

Re: Food, housing, & health care costs are a source of major stress for many people

#433
post #140

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These are two symptoms of the same problem, I don’t see any issue with the statistics. Plus, of course, not everyone who’s poor or hungry is obese. If you think about it, it makes sense that food insecurity and obesity go together. If I didn’t know when I’d have food, I’d try to overeat when I could, like many wild animals do before winter. And most of our cheap food is low quality and very high in fat and carbs (esp…

Did you really just compare human beings to wild animals who hibernate?

It was a loose analogy, but it is thought Neanderthals may have hibernated (or gone into a state of torpor). Your comment offers no reasoning nor evidence; is something wrong with it, and if so what, exactly? Food scarcity in winter time is something humans have historically been exposed to and evolved with in much of the world. And clearly over-eating in humans corellates somewhat with food insecurity. Regardless of the mechanism, my point was that it’s not hard to imagine why obesity and hunger might go together.

Re: Food, housing, & health care costs are a source of major stress for many people

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I encourage everyone to do the following simple exercise: look at the main stock market in your country, and see how far back you must go for the main index to be half of what it is today. The answer is probably somewhere between 5 and 7 years. Then find salary statistics, and see how much the average salary has increased in the same time. The answer is probably somewhere between 20 and 30%. And it really is as simpl…

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Re: Food, housing, & health care costs are a source of major stress for many people

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If you put a 2.5% annual tax on net worth, that net worth would very rapidly find its way to other countries. Wealthy people would learn to structure their earnings to flow into businesses in other countries to avoid this wealth tax. This would reduce income tax in the United States. I would guess the overall effect would trend toward a net tax loss. If you gave 40 million people an extra $15K per year to spend, the…

The $15k is being transferred from entity A to entity B. Both entities are not spending the $15k so there wouldn't be any effect on inflation. If you printed an extra $15k then that would cause inflation because both entity A and entity B would be spending $15k. Inflation, which means a steady rise in prices overall, happens only when the total money supply in an economy grows. This increase in money, often called "p…

This completely ignores Friedman's concept of the velocity of money (MV = PY). If that $15k is being saved by someone versus immediately spent, that has a different effect. A transfer isn’t neutral if the two parties have different propensities to consume (marginal propensity to consume). Similarly how quickly and what the money is being spent on will have an effect. Most money (M2) is not created directly by the treasury but rather indirectly from large banks lending against fractional deposits. This is money created on the balance sheets of banks but has real effect on the economy.

Re: Food, housing, & health care costs are a source of major stress for many people

#436
post #138

I encourage everyone to do the following simple exercise: look at the main stock market in your country, and see how far back you must go for the main index to be half of what it is today. The answer is probably somewhere between 5 and 7 years. Then find salary statistics, and see how much the average salary has increased in the same time. The answer is probably somewhere between 20 and 30%. And it really is as simpl…

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The math in the statement is correct in the short term. If the risk-free rate is around 3% and the equity risk premium is about 4%, the expected return on stocks would be roughly 7% a year, which would double values in about 10–11 years using the Rule of 72. That doubling could occur for a time even without productivity growth, as companies can boost earnings through pricing power, cost-cutting, or financial engineering.

Over the long run, though, sustained returns depend on fundamentals like productivity growth, population growth, and inflation. Without productivity gains, corporate profits would eventually stagnate, making it difficult to maintain a 7% annual return. Risk premiums, interest rates, and valuations also change over time, so fixed assumptions rarely hold for decades. In short, the doubling math works, but it oversimplifies the economic reality that long-term stock growth ultimately relies on productivity.

Re: Food, housing, & health care costs are a source of major stress for many people

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This assumes the wealth transfer doesn’t affect the price of assets and services which is of course bonkers. More than likely the transfer will happen and affordability will not improve due to inflationary pressures.

Inflation, which means a steady rise in prices overall, happens only when the total money supply in an economy grows. This increase in money, often called "printing money," can be physical cash or digital money created through lending and government policies. Without more money in the system, if prices go up in one area, they have to go down somewhere else because the total money available limits how much can be spen…

Low income people chase goods with all their money. High income people squirrel it away or spend on luxury goods.

You’ll redistribute the money such that the things that people receiving the subsidies need/want now have more money chasing them. That will cause inflation of those goods.

I don’t think this causes lasting inflation, it causes a step up of inflation. Precisely in a way that once every thing stabilizes nobody is better or worse than they were previously. I read Friedman in ECON 101 thirty years ago, I’ve probably forgotten a lot but not the role of velocity in MV=PQ.

Re: Food, housing, & health care costs are a source of major stress for many people

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post #161
post #138

I encourage everyone to do the following simple exercise: look at the main stock market in your country, and see how far back you must go for the main index to be half of what it is today. The answer is probably somewhere between 5 and 7 years. Then find salary statistics, and see how much the average salary has increased in the same time. The answer is probably somewhere between 20 and 30%. And it really is as simpl…

Speaking as someone from the US, how is this a meaningful comparison in anyway? Honest question. Sure, wage growth sounds good in an upward trending market, but let's say the market has gone down 30% over the past five years. Would you expect everybody to take a 30% pay cut? If Walmart had a blockbuster year because their suppliers charged less (more efficient means of production), how are Walmart employee wages inte…

they lay people off they don't give pay cuts

Re: Food, housing, & health care costs are a source of major stress for many people

#439
post #247

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What is sickeningly upsetting is how difficult it seems to be for our news organizations and talking heads to talk openly about this fact.

its not difficult - it's that they very clearly HATE class consciousness. just look back at occupy wallstreet. it got coverage that was nearly universally mocking it and sneering at it, and the second they were able to ignore it and pretend it didnt exist anymore, corporate news moved on. everything is framed as us-vs-them in corporate news, and its usually one political party against another, and it's usually for st…

> it got coverage that was nearly universally mocking it and sneering at it, and the second they were able to ignore it and pretend it didnt exist anymore, corporate news moved on.

This is exactly how I remember the coverage, but it’s notable that these people tied their own noose:

Occupy Richmond 10/6/11 Intro to "Progressive Stack" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCwhlZtHhWs

The leadership then largely went along for the ride in the technology and corporate finance sectors by electing to become a pseudo-priesthood under the banner of DEI. A lot of money got siphoned off by these people during the boom in exchange for countersignalling the anti-corporate sentiment prevalent among progressive coalitions at the time. This declined somewhat during the latter half of the 2010s after the tech companies started censoring conservatives (“They’re a private company, they can do whatever they want.”), and then the trend reversed when Biden’s senility became obvious, and the tech companies pivoted to Trump and started (disingenuously) signalling that they were anti-woke. In a lot of ways, Peter Thiel’s entire model of hiring ostensibly right-wing influencers (while himself being a homosexual immigrant) mirrors that of woke capital 10 years prior.

Re: Food, housing, & health care costs are a source of major stress for many people

#440
post #200

A few months ago I had a persistent irritation on my right eye, as if some dust was stuck there. Worried about it, I went to Urgent care and got billed $3400 (dollars) for antibiotics, WHICH WERE WRONG, an actual ophthalmologist said I had it scratched and just had to apply some drops. $250 for the ophthalmologist and about $50 for the drops. This week I am in Brazil for vacation, and my mother-in-law had a lot of ba…

Just got my bill for a recent 20 minute doctor visit (with one of the best HC insurance coverages in my state: $1,600 cost, $1,400 adjustment, $200 out-of-pocket given my $3,000 OOP limit was not reacehd). Absurd. The USA will likely never get to an efficient govt. single pay system (unlike every other industrialized company). Given this, the option I hope for is that the FedGov passes a law that requires all Master Charge prices to be based on "Acitivty Based Accounting". ABC would provide insights for greater operational efficiency, and the 1600>1400>200 magic hand-waving would disappear. There would be a great loss of employees for health insurance portfolio analysts, but most of them could move into cost accounting roles for hospitals. Please GOP/DEM consider this.
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