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Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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post #301

> It does 100 interviews, and it’s going to hand back the best 10 to the hiring manager, and then the human takes over,” he says. Yikes. One thing that's incredibly important about reaching the interview-stage of a job application has been that there is a parity, or even an imbalance favoring the candidate, in human time usage. The company's people (often multiple people at once) have to spend time with the candidate…

> Admitting right off the bat that you're going to waste the time of 90% of your applicants without these stakes is just wildly disrespectful. They were already doing this. Now it is just more automated. You didnt have the right keywords. 2pts into the basket. Too long (meaning old/bad team fit), gone. You worked for a company that might have some sort of backend NDA, gone. Wrong school, gone. Wrong whatever, gone. Y…

It is what it is. But surely the difference here, and a pretty galling difference, is that the 299 candidates are now “wasting” double the amount of time than pre-ai times. Time spent doing the traditional application process + now an additional time talking to a bot to simply get to the same dead end

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post #343

Take this entire paragraph and read carefully, and it explains how to kill this trend: > “The truth is, if you want a job, you’re gonna go through this thing,” Adam Jackson, CEO and founder of Braintrust, a company that distributes AI interviewers, tells Fortune. “If there were a large portion of the job-seeking community that were wholesale rejecting this, our clients wouldn’t find the tool useful… This thing would…

I already bow out of leet code quizzes and companies that use Greenhouse for applications; and while I'm not changing the industry, it changes what part of the industry I deal with for the better, ha,

> companies that use Greenhouse for applications

What's wrong with Greenhouse? I've seen several companies use it, and other than being just another bog-standard applicant tracking system I haven't seen anything particularly bad. I would love to know what the scoop is here.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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> “The truth is, if you want a job, you’re gonna go through this thing,” Adam Jackson, CEO and founder of Braintrust, a company that distributes AI interviewers, tells Fortune. Man, what a ghoul.

The company is a pivot from some web 3 token BS. Surprise surprise!

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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post #358

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most job seekers don't have the luxury of choice.

Well, not with that attitude, they don't. Boycotts are not pain-free. They require everyone to stick together and refuse to participate in behaviors that are not acceptable. I'd argue that most job seekers don't have the luxury to allow themselves to be diminished into irrelevance.

Most of us on HN are definitely much better off than the average person, so we have the freedom to not desperately pursue any possible chance that comes our way. A lot of people here also have very in demand skills and have companies begging them to work for them, not the other way around.

For the people just starting out with no experience, and those wondering whether they should get their car fixed, buy new shoes to replace their current ones that have a hole in the bottom, or eat something better than rice and beans for another week, they don't have the luxury to boycott jobs. They're focused on surviving, and that's a huge chunk of America.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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post #89

I did one of these once. Once . I felt so bad afterwards that I swore them off forever. It's not like the 'interview' was terrible or anything. I knew it was AI from the start. It was just that when I got done with it, I realized that I had talked at a computer for ~45 minutes. And, yet again, I was going to be ghosted by the company (I was), and that I was never going to get those 45 minutes back. That was time I co…

All automated interviews are like this. Like when you get a response for a take home interview and never hear back. Or just get a rejection.

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My policy has always been that any company seeking to employ me must put in as much effort / time into the interview as I do. If they are not willing to do that, I consider that an indication of how they intend to treat me in the future and wisely walk away.That is why I would never do one of these, and that is why, when offered a take-home assignment, I send back a quote (which companies have accepted and paid, curiously).

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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post #343

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I already bow out of leet code quizzes and companies that use Greenhouse for applications; and while I'm not changing the industry, it changes what part of the industry I deal with for the better, ha,

> companies that use Greenhouse for applications What's wrong with Greenhouse? I've seen several companies use it, and other than being just another bog-standard applicant tracking system I haven't seen anything particularly bad. I would love to know what the scoop is here.

My experience is almost a 100% correlation with being ghosted, so I'm assuming there's some quick and easy filters that I get dropped for. So I'm not wasting time without emailing with or talking to someone first.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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post #301

> It does 100 interviews, and it’s going to hand back the best 10 to the hiring manager, and then the human takes over,” he says. Yikes. One thing that's incredibly important about reaching the interview-stage of a job application has been that there is a parity, or even an imbalance favoring the candidate, in human time usage. The company's people (often multiple people at once) have to spend time with the candidate…

> Admitting right off the bat that you're going to waste the time of 90% of your applicants without these stakes is just wildly disrespectful. They were already doing this. Now it is just more automated. You didnt have the right keywords. 2pts into the basket. Too long (meaning old/bad team fit), gone. You worked for a company that might have some sort of backend NDA, gone. Wrong school, gone. Wrong whatever, gone. Y…

An applicant doesn't need to do 45 minutes to prepare a job specific resume, unlike the interview.

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post #139

> Candidates tell Fortune that AI interviewers make them feel unappreciated to the point where they’d rather skip out on potential job opportunities, reasoning the company’s culture can’t be great if human bosses won’t make the time to interview them. But HR experts argue the opposite; since AI interviewers can help hiring managers save time in first-round calls, the humans have more time to have more meaningful conv…

> “This gives me a bad feeling about your company” “But you’re wrong” "Now you gave me two bad feelings about the company."

It's not my actions causing this it's just your perspective.

Rule number 1; everyone's perspective is their reality, regardless of your beliefs or intentions.

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