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Scientists may have found a way to eliminate chromosome linked to Down syndrome

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Re: Scientists may have found a way to eliminate chromosome linked to Down syndrome

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I'm not an expert but I'm pretty sure the definition of "straight cunts" is that they aren't turned on by lesbians.

I think that the GP must not be American. I noticed in Ireland (at least) the word "cunt" is used to describe an unpleasant/objectionable person in general (regardless of gender) whereas in the US it's a derogatory term for a woman.

Indeed, its a non-gendered term here.

Re: Scientists may have found a way to eliminate chromosome linked to Down syndrome

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> Unfortunately I think lesbians are only "far more accepted" in the sense that they turn on straight cunts rather than repulse them. The objectification and othering is the same. "Straight cunts"?

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The comment that started this thread wasn't about Down syndrome, it was about Down syndrome being more accepted because society is more accepting with lesbians being appreciated as the example.

Re: Scientists may have found a way to eliminate chromosome linked to Down syndrome

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> Everyday I passed by the bus stop she would be dancing her heart out to a Britney track waiting for the bus and it made my world a little brighter. As someone who absolutely loves to "be weird", I often wish the world was so much friendlier to folks like this (other than in a token manner).

There's something genuinely beautiful about people who live with that kind of unfiltered joy

And frequently we decide they’re damaged. Seems like its really the rest of us who are damaged.

Re: Scientists may have found a way to eliminate chromosome linked to Down syndrome

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So what if one doesn't exist yet and another could be? Then both are possibilities. Your sentences look superifically logical but they make no actual sense.

I'm not sure I get your point. Care to elaborate? In one case, we're talking about assured suffering. In the other, the absence of suffering. Both are hypothetical, but in one case, we know about the outcome. There's obviously a difference here.

When you saying something like "we are talking about assured suffering" it is so unrigorous I cannot even begin to reply. Maybe read some philosophical literature. Or just the 5 w's like in grade school. Who suffers? Why is suffering bad? Why this comparison and not other comparative demarfations? What about second-order social effects? Could that increase suffering in some way? Serious ethicists grapple with these questions because they cannot assume a premise of 20th century nuclear-family hypotheticals (your error) removed from the societal context. And so on.

Re: Scientists may have found a way to eliminate chromosome linked to Down syndrome

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> She can no longer work, so they now struggle on a single income, if her husband were to leave her she would be completely screwed. This is not inherent to Down's syndrome, this is because we live in a society that could easily support people but doesn't.

It's very easy to ask everyone else to support your financial decisions.

Financial decisions like renting a place to sleep in safety, or eating.

Re: Scientists may have found a way to eliminate chromosome linked to Down syndrome

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Interesting, I wonder what else this might lead too! Encouraging we might be getting somewhere. I used to live near a Down syndrome center where a bunch of folks lived and I remember this one lady who was kitted out with Britney Spears everything, lunchbox, t-shirt, hat, and headphones. Everyday I passed by the bus stop she would be dancing her heart out to a Britney track waiting for the bus and it made my world a l…

> Everyday I passed by the bus stop she would be dancing her heart out to a Britney track waiting for the bus and it made my world a little brighter. As someone who absolutely loves to "be weird", I often wish the world was so much friendlier to folks like this (other than in a token manner).

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Re: Scientists may have found a way to eliminate chromosome linked to Down syndrome

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There's something genuinely beautiful about people who live with that kind of unfiltered joy

And frequently we decide they’re damaged . Seems like its really the rest of us who are damaged.

There’s another side to this. They place a large burden on the people taking care of them. Many parents also report that they regret conceiving children with Down syndrome.

Re: Scientists may have found a way to eliminate chromosome linked to Down syndrome

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We've banned this account for using HN primarily for ideological battle. Regardless of ideology, that's not allowed here. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html p.s. This isn't a response to this particular comment, but to the account's overall pattern of behavior, which is way over the line.

I'll make another ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ yes, naturally, almost every post I make on my throwaways is something political, in response to existing political comments or submissions, which are evidently allowed. using throwaways to protect oneself from the terminally online crowd is pretty much a necessity in the current year, unless your values and opinions are firmly in the middle of the Overton window. and even then, there are…

> in response to existing political comments or submissions, which are evidently allowed

This makes me think that you might not have taken in the essential bit, which is the pattern of an account's behavior. Was that not clear from the above?

In case it helps, the issue is that we don't want accounts to use HN primarily for arguing about politics or ideology. That's an important test and has proven to be one of the more reliable ones, in terms of whether an account is using HN as intended or not (https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...)

Separately from that, looking at https://news.ycombinator.com/posts?id=123yawaworht456, I see other reasons to ban such an account—you've routinely been breaking HN's rules in plenty of ways which have nothing to do with your specific opinions. If your motivation is simply to protect yourself, as you say here, then I wonder why that would be.

Re: Scientists may have found a way to eliminate chromosome linked to Down syndrome

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It's very easy to ask everyone else to support your financial decisions.

It’s also very easy to expect the poor to subsidize your lifestyle by making $7.25/hr. Everything has perspectives.

Aren't you obligated to make sense though? Not just pretend you made a parallel argument?

Re: Scientists may have found a way to eliminate chromosome linked to Down syndrome

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It's no less arbitrary than deciding that gypsies, who engage in petty crime and mistreat their children, forcing them to become beggars and thieves themselves, should not reproduce. If anything, Down kids probably bring more good to society than gypsy kids. And forced sterilization is arguably more ethical than forced abortion. Same things goes for alcoholics and drug users. Privately, most people agree with this po…

Can't agree here. Regarding gypsies it boils down to the culture and rates of stunting, as evidenced by families who broke off the former and prevented the latter. The way people with trisomia function in society is also a product of our nurturing culture. It's only recently, when such people started living longer lives thanks to advances in medical science, that their intellectual development gained more attention a…

> if they're a first child, they're the only one due to this

Are you saying people don't have more kids after having a first kid with Trisomy 21?

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