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Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks

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Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks

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Care for some more constructive criticism?

I'll ask more directly: What's the use case and/or value proposition for the average person? I've heard about it a few times over the last 24 hours, and I'm relatively off social media, so that to me indicates a considerable buzz. But the only thing that gets headlines is "Jack did a thing!" And the readme is primarily jargon. I can't speak for GP, but it's not clear to me _why_ it's a Really Big Deal.

> What's the use case and/or value proposition for the average person?

Weird take. If it doesn't make sense to you, maybe it's just not for you (yet). That's not an indictment of either you, the project, or other people being excited about it. Not everything has to be targeting the lowest common denominator on launch.

Who even is "The Average Person"?

Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks

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post #431

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll ask more directly: What's the use case and/or value proposition for the average person? I've heard about it a few times over the last 24 hours, and I'm relatively off social media, so that to me indicates a considerable buzz. But the only thing that gets headlines is "Jack did a thing!" And the readme is primarily jargon. I can't speak for GP, but it's not clear to me _why_ it's a Really Big Deal.

> What's the use case and/or value proposition for the average person? Weird take. If it doesn't make sense to you, maybe it's just not for you (yet). That's not an indictment of either you, the project, or other people being excited about it. Not everything has to be targeting the lowest common denominator on launch. Who even is "The Average Person"?

How is trying to better understand what I'm missing a "weird take"?

Edit: feel free to answer if you're so inclined, but after seeing your edits, I have no desire to engage with you further; You win!

Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll ask more directly: What's the use case and/or value proposition for the average person? I've heard about it a few times over the last 24 hours, and I'm relatively off social media, so that to me indicates a considerable buzz. But the only thing that gets headlines is "Jack did a thing!" And the readme is primarily jargon. I can't speak for GP, but it's not clear to me _why_ it's a Really Big Deal.

Bluetooth mesh chats were quite popular and effective during the Hong Kong protests. Aside from protests, I'd also say they could be useful during festivals and other events where mobile networks can get quite congested. Eventually fragments of groups will pass within range, forwarding messages to the rest, useful for coordinating rendezvous. If built into an app for the event, it would be even more effective.

Thanks, that's helpful context!

Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks

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Bluetooth mesh chats were quite popular and effective during the Hong Kong protests. Aside from protests, I'd also say they could be useful during festivals and other events where mobile networks can get quite congested. Eventually fragments of groups will pass within range, forwarding messages to the rest, useful for coordinating rendezvous. If built into an app for the event, it would be even more effective.

Thanks, that's helpful context!

A side note, airtags + iphones are effectively the largest bluetooth mesh network in the world, and they are quite useful even though only coordinates are sent.

Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks

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Care for some more constructive criticism?

Maybe I'm being overly critical. But it's nothing revolutionary or new, we've had Bluetooth mesh chat for a long time. In fact I vaguely remember seeing it as someone's a university masters project over 10 years ago. I'm more interested in the lo-ra mesh, but that's probably because it feels more mysterious to me, as I have little understanding of radio networks. Let's not even get started on the name (b*tch@). But I…

Nothing revolutionary but I haven't seen one with this many features.

Store and forward, E2EE, message compression, battery optimization, groups, permissions, etc.

It's pretty feature packed tbh. I think that's where the news is.

Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks

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post #426

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Care for some more constructive criticism?

Maybe I'm being overly critical. But it's nothing revolutionary or new, we've had Bluetooth mesh chat for a long time. In fact I vaguely remember seeing it as someone's a university masters project over 10 years ago. I'm more interested in the lo-ra mesh, but that's probably because it feels more mysterious to me, as I have little understanding of radio networks. Let's not even get started on the name (b*tch@). But I…

Someone ported it to Android already. https://github.com/permissionlesstech/bitchat-android/releas...

Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks

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Thanks, that's helpful context!

A side note, airtags + iphones are effectively the largest bluetooth mesh network in the world, and they are quite useful even though only coordinates are sent.

Do you mean useful in general or useful in this specific application?

If the goal is transmitting a message how do coordinates from a "read-only" device facilitate a p2p transfer?

Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A side note, airtags + iphones are effectively the largest bluetooth mesh network in the world, and they are quite useful even though only coordinates are sent.

Do you mean useful in general or useful in this specific application? If the goal is transmitting a message how do coordinates from a "read-only" device facilitate a p2p transfer?

I meant useful in general. It's slightly off topic, but I think many people overlook the fact they are just a bluetooth mesh network as well.

Imagine one just as large as the airtag + iphone ecosystem but with messaging capabilities!

Would be cool to see one built into android + iphones but that will never happen. But a 3rd party could get so popular that it achieves somewhat close to that.

I'd imagine remote villages and towns could all install this and communicate with each community member very effectively.

Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks

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Who would you pay for sending messages? That's your centralization point. Alternatively if you allow "starting balance", how would you prevent from making a lot of accounts for spam sending?

imagine building a lightning client into this.

Yeah, it’d be horrible UX
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