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Re: GCP Outage

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Post by whatevertrevor »

smoe wrote: post #377
whatevertrevor wrote: post #233

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Doesn't cloudflare have its own infrastructure, it's wild to me that both these things are down presumably together with this size of a blast radius.

Latest Cloudflare status update basically confirms that there is a dependency to GCP in their systems: "Cloudflare’s critical Workers KV service went offline due to an outage of a 3rd party service that is a key dependency. As a result, certain Cloudflare products that rely on KV service to store and disseminate information are unavailable"

Yeah I saw that now too. Interesting, I'm definitely a little surprised that they have this big of an external dependency surface.

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Post by whatevertrevor »

derefr wrote: post #423
whatevertrevor wrote: post #233

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Doesn't cloudflare have its own infrastructure, it's wild to me that both these things are down presumably together with this size of a blast radius.

Cloudflare isn't a cloud in the traditional sense; it's a CDN with extra smarts in the CDN nodes. CF's comparative advantage is in doing clever things with just-big-enough shared-nothing clusters deployed at every edge POP imaginable; not in building f-off huge clusters out in the middle of nowhere that can host half the Internet, including all their own services. As such, I wouldn't be overly surprised if all of CF'…

But then you do expose yourself to huge issues like this if your control plane is dependent on a single cloud provider, especially for a company that wants to be THE reverse proxy and CDN for the internet no?

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Post by bravetraveler »

voytec wrote: post #388
terom wrote: post #371

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From the Cloudflare incident: > Cloudflare’s critical Workers KV service went offline due to an outage of a 3rd party service that is a key dependency. As a result, certain Cloudflare products that rely on KV service to store and disseminate information are unavailable [...] Surprising, but not entirely unplausible for a GCP outage to spread to CF.

> outage of a 3rd party service that is a key dependency. Good to know that Cloudflare has services seemingly based on GCP with no redundancy.

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Re: GCP Outage

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Post by yard2010 »

koito17 wrote: post #87
DrBenCarson wrote: post #56

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npm as well

Initially attributed the unresponsiveness of `npm install` to npm (the CLI tool) in general. Tried using bun to install dependencies, saw the same result -- but with actual logs instead of a vague spinner -- and decided to check Hacker News. Getting 504 errors on anything from registry.npmjs.org that isn't cached on my machine.

I just want to say that bun is a gift. It's just like npm, but backwards. So you imagine how perfect it is. I'm kidding, but really - bun is awesome. If you're using npm you can make the switch as it's mostly compatible.

Re: GCP Outage

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Post by smoe »

whatevertrevor wrote: post #431
smoe wrote: post #377

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Latest Cloudflare status update basically confirms that there is a dependency to GCP in their systems: "Cloudflare’s critical Workers KV service went offline due to an outage of a 3rd party service that is a key dependency. As a result, certain Cloudflare products that rely on KV service to store and disseminate information are unavailable"

Yeah I saw that now too. Interesting, I'm definitely a little surprised that they have this big of an external dependency surface.

Definitely very surprised to see, that so much of the CF products that are there to compete with the big cloud providers have such a dependance on GCP.

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Post by yard2010 »

ekojs wrote: post #197

https://status.cloud.google.com/incidents/ow5i3PPK96RduMcb1S... > Multiple GCP products are experiencing impact due to Identity and Access Management Service Issue IAM issue huh. The post-mortem should be interesting at least.

Ha. With all this soviet style euphemism I rather read the onion instead.

Re: GCP Outage

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Post by asim »

Just our bi-yearly reminder of our over reliance on cloud providers for literally everything. Can't say there's an answer beyond trying to build more independent tech but we know how that goes.
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