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How Ukraine’s killer drones are beating Russian jamming

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Re: How Ukraine’s killer drones are beating Russian jamming

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Post by I-M-S »

Yeul wrote: post #355
stego-tech wrote: post #226

Drone warfare has always been equal parts distressing (it’s impersonal, it’s too easy to leverage, and therefore too easy to abuse) and incredible (ultra-thin fiber as a kite line? Brilliant!) to me. These advances are no different. That said, I do fret we’re staring down a new age of guerrilla warfare. Drones are cheap, widely available, and increasingly autonomous. Their countermeasures are either impractical for c…

I think drones are fantastic. Why throw good money after bad? Dutch soldier lives have been ruined because they had to be sent to places like Lebanon and Bosnia. Nobody decent deserves that.

Professional soldiers are rather low on the list of people deserving sympathy in a war.

Re: How Ukraine’s killer drones are beating Russian jamming

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Post by I-M-S »

lordnacho wrote: post #220
hofrogs wrote: post #169

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Stores won't sell a SIM card without the buyer providing valid state ID, and SIM cards are disabled by carriers if they suspect you are using someone else's card and you can't provide an ID for it. This is one of the recent laws. Getting a phone number/data plan that isn't associated with your real identity (and instead registered to someone else, usually a homeless guy somewhere) isn't impossible, but those wouldn't…

Maybe just tourist SIMs that let you roam into other countries? Buy a load of SIMs in Kazakhstan or somewhere like that, roam into Russia, now you have internet?

This would almost make roaming charges the costliest part of the entire operation.

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Post by stavros »

I-M-S wrote: post #430
stavros wrote: post #394

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If I've gone to the hassle of setting up a high tech bombing attack, wouldn't I have also gone to the trouble of putting the drone in a self-opening container?

Everything mentioned affects the operation of a self-opening container as well.

A self-opening container has a much easier problem to solve than flight.

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Post by Teever »

xeromal wrote: post #193
wood_spirit wrote: post #173

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How does the ocean protect America from swarms of short range drones being launched from normal looking shipping containers on trucks being controlled from thousands of miles away?

The first volley would work of course but then container ships are gonna be nuked from orbit after that

How far off are palm sized drones that have light weight solar panels on them that can flit about here and there and sit and wait and recharge in unobtrusive locations until they make their way to their target?

Re: How Ukraine’s killer drones are beating Russian jamming

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Post by CamperBob2 »

JohnBooty wrote: post #310
CamperBob2 wrote: post #67

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Why couldn't AI do that? It's better than any human at this stuff.

You could certainly train AI to navigate that particular maze of netting, but I'm far from convinced you could train an AI to navigate a near-infinite variety of novel, hostile measures not present in the training corpus. It seems trivial to confuse a Tesla's AI. I'm assuming they're fairly near the top of the game when it comes to that, yes? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1MigIJXJx8 This sort of intentionally host…

Self-driving cars are a political problem, not a technical one. We have self-driving cars on Mars.

Autonomous drones, yeah, well... https://www.tudelft.nl/en/2025/lr/autonomous-drone-from-tu-d...

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Post by bigyabai »

empath75 wrote: post #250
mountainriver wrote: post #209

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We do that in the US as well, it’s just more regulated (for some reason)

But the US can't manufacture them at the scale china can.

Why would you? A glide kit for a Mk84 has twice the range, 100x the payload and the same price tag. The warfighting America does isn't rooted in that domain (even if you can argue drones are smarter).

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Post by RenThraysk »

dmkolobov wrote: post #229
RenThraysk wrote: post #222

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You are raging, and your thinking has ceased. We've had two years of footage of drones being flown over tanks, and bombs dropped directly down into them.

No one is arguing the merits of drone warfare. We have two years of footage from Ukraine, where camera-equipped drones are launched from a several miles away at most, and where there are networks of pilots and support specialists to assemble and launch more drones in case of (frequent) failure. I don’t think it’s wise to wager the success of a 6-month mission deep in enemy territory on a plan with a single point of f…

`I understand that you’re probably just gonna reply with “still only need one camera”`

Your first response was disrespectful. Probably because you are young and immature. Grow up.

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Post by RenThraysk »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #393
RenThraysk wrote: post #219

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They knew where they started from. Know where the target is relative to the start point.

You need to read a bit more on autonomous systems and navigation, it will surely tame your hubris. Everything is simple if you don't understand it.

You have never written autonomous navigation systems.

Re: How Ukraine’s killer drones are beating Russian jamming

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Post by dmkolobov »

RenThraysk wrote: post #437
dmkolobov wrote: post #229

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No one is arguing the merits of drone warfare. We have two years of footage from Ukraine, where camera-equipped drones are launched from a several miles away at most, and where there are networks of pilots and support specialists to assemble and launch more drones in case of (frequent) failure. I don’t think it’s wise to wager the success of a 6-month mission deep in enemy territory on a plan with a single point of f…

`I understand that you’re probably just gonna reply with “still only need one camera”` Your first response was disrespectful. Probably because you are young and immature. Grow up.

Fair. Sorry about that.

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Post by BriggyDwiggs42 »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #411
empath75 wrote: post #259

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I think watch out for Mexico. The cartels are swimming in cash and are already using drones to attack security forces and assassinate people.

Yeah, it’s much cheaper for China and Mexico to destroy the US from the inside with a slow poison of drugs over decades than any done attack.

This how you look at the world?
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