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xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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Post by npteljes »

SahAssar wrote: post #426
npteljes wrote: post #406

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a tired, and untrue cliché. Everyone is the product, all the time.

Not at all true, there are many services I pay for where I am not the product. I also use much OSS software where I am not the product. If you disagree say why.

In retrospect, I agree. I worded it too strongly out of emotion. "Everyone could be the product of a service, free or not" would be closer to what I think. The message being that if being a product is important to a would-be user, they should investigate in every case, because power dynamics play more of a role, than being free or not.

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Post by fennecfoxy »

theasisa wrote: post #411
fennecfoxy wrote: post #405

As a furry: nooooooooooooooo. Please God, no!

If anything this will make text written by Grok easily identifiable by the constant yiffing

Contrary to popular belief that's not really so much a thing. Even back in the day RP was only vaguely popular with a portion of the community. Most furries don't have sex in fursuit, only some.

Otherwise it's not yiffing, it's just sex. Probably more prevalent among furries given that we have a higher ratio of queer people than wider society, and we're all mostly more open about sex. Straight non-furs are comparatively Catholic in their relations.

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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Post by basgras »

miohtama wrote: post #312

xAI is paying to be "the default" AI of s chat app of 1B monthly active users. They pay for distribution and they likely believe they can later monetise this by sheer mass, roping people in Grok or offering professional paid services. Telegram has in-app monetisation for 50 payment providers and more than hundred countries. They also have crypto but it is unrelated. Also if someone still believes into the freedom of…

Disagree with that last point. Musk bends his knee regularly and censors his X users, because he has so many business conflicts of interest. https://qz.com/elon-musk-x-twitter-transparency-brazil-turke...

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Post by beAbU »

throwaway290 wrote: post #430
beAbU wrote: post #396

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure I buy your second bullet. Windows has had copilot baked in for a while now, where genai stuff is already possible. Meta has their ai baked into WhatsApp, and probably into instagram as well (not sure though) Google is rolling out gemini on android. I would posit that for a majority of telegram users, xAi is just going to be "yet another AI integration" for them, and it'll be nothing novel.

Where is LLM in my whatsapp? Never seen it, latest version.

On the chats tab, right above the green "+" floating button there is a "meta AI" icon on my version of WhatsApp. If you click on it it opens up a chat with the AI like normal.

I guess they are still rolling out the feature.

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Post by bratwurst3000 »

colordrops wrote: post #291
dotcoma wrote: post #274

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Maybe not. But how much are they going to make by spending these 300 million USD ?

Are you claiming it's a stupid business decision, or something else? Because they must be thinking that there is a profit to be made somewhere, either through training data or brand exposure to Telegram's 1 billion users.

yes telegram user need a conspiracy theory friendly chatbot and grok needs users… win win win
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