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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by busterarm »

swat535 wrote: post #269
drumhead wrote: post #22

If the objective is to scare people off from going to the USA, then they're doing a magnificent job. I've heard other cases of people with green cards being arrested and put in terrible conditions, with absolutely no reason given. This woman was ready to go back home and not enter the US, but instead she was dragged through hell and only released because she was Canadian. All those with different passports get subjec…

New America? I beg to differ. The United States has always been hostile to outsiders—what’s different now is that they’re not even trying to hide it. As a naturalized Canadian, crossing the U.S. border has always been a frustrating ordeal. Despite holding a valid Canadian passport, I’m routinely subjected to an extra hour of “security” questioning. Maybe I’m just unlucky. Or maybe it’s because I was born in an "undes…

It's mutual for Americans going the other way and has been for at least the 20 years plus that I've been regularly visiting Canada.

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Post by LPisGood »

rayiner wrote: post #165
drumhead wrote: post #22

If the objective is to scare people off from going to the USA, then they're doing a magnificent job. I've heard other cases of people with green cards being arrested and put in terrible conditions, with absolutely no reason given. This woman was ready to go back home and not enter the US, but instead she was dragged through hell and only released because she was Canadian. All those with different passports get subjec…

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> Millions of illegal immigrants and putative refugees came over in the last four years

Refugees are good. We do welcome your hurdled masses yearning to be free, after all. People should not be afraid to come to America, and I find the sentiment that they should to be disgusting.

As far as illegal crossings, 4 years is a very odd and politicized way to say that; you don’t care about the millions of crossings that happened in the 4 years before?

Obama deported more people than anyone in history, and Biden deported more than Trump. Deporting “suspected gang members” with no due process is antithetical to the American system. We purport to be a nation of laws and justice.

If you want to decrease illegal crossings then do that - but illegally invoking _war powers_ to perform extraordinary rendition as a deterrent is plainly not the way to do it.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by aaron695 »

greggyb wrote: post #237

Why is this flagged? First of all, it's about an entrepreneur traveling to the US for a startup, which is directly relevant to a significant proportion of YCombinator founders themselves. Beyond its direct relevance to the core founding audience of HN, it is not clickbait or wantonly inflammatory, and is clearly of interest to many based on the comment activity and votes.

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

LPisGood wrote: post #406
diggan wrote: post #370

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> SF and many other places offer job opportunities the EU can't, Besides a job that just pays more money, what sort of unique opportunities exists in the US that doesn't exist anywhere in Europe? Genuinely curious, as I can't seem to think of any on my own.

Lots of the best colleges in the world are in USA. That’s not to say some aren’t in the EU, but by numbers USA has Europe thoroughly outclassed.

It's important to note that basically all university rankings are massively, massively skewed by the native English speaking countries.

Additionally, lots of UK and US universities have huge endowments which definitely helps.

That's not to say that there aren't great Universities there, but really international students go to the US (and some of the EU) so that they have a better chance of working there post study.

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Post by LPisGood »

9283409232 wrote: post #376
rayiner wrote: post #165

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This administration does not want to reduce illegal immigration. They just want to create fear and headlines. If you wanted to reduce illegal immigration, you have a very easy way of doing it through mandating e-verify.

I agree. It seems like the goal is not reducing illegal immigration, but creating fear. This is why they’re coming after lawful residents for things like political speech.

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Post by myko »

kcplate wrote: post #388
righthand wrote: post #338

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This is the exact same thing my father said before Biden stepped down, only instead it was my grandmother. Suddenly everyone’s an expert in mental decline and that was worrying for voters with Biden to stutter infrequently but with logical talking points. However it was acceptable for Trump to stand there and literally drool out of his mouth with nonsensical hate. That is a reason to not vote is unfounded medical hys…

Got it. You disregard the opinions of people who have seen dementia first hand in favor of a DNC talking point. “Don’t trust your lying eyes! Biden is as sharp as a tack”. I know what I saw, and I am sure your dad did too. I spent years as a caregiver to an Alzheimers patient, I may not be a “medical expert” but I am capable of recognizing similarities, especially when they are obvious and frankly common for dementia…

It's kind of humorous reading this and thinking about trump during the same campaign. He looks utterly confused and has no idea what he is talking about all the time, he was a doddering fool during his last administration, and this one he's not at the wheel at all.

So it's just funny to think that people looked at the mental capabilities of Harris and trump and decided... yep trump is the guy!!

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by LPisGood »

rayiner wrote: post #360
fzeroracer wrote: post #267

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Because this has historically worked so well with the War On Drugs and the sheer amount of people America puts into prison, yeah? Weird how no matter how hard we ratchet up draconian enforcement measures it doesn't seem to work. And in this scenario, we're chasing away tourists, foreign talent and more. But hey, at least those sweet private prisons get their kickback from the layers of corruption.

Illegal border crossings have dropped to almost zero. The policy is working. Private ICE detention centers don’t get any money if people don’t cross the border illegally.

There is absolutely no reason to think illegal border crossings were ever much higher than they are today.

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Post by footy »

blindriver wrote: post #249
ssijak wrote: post #235

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"woman from the UK was denied entry into Canada and because of that was denied entry back into the US" You are proving my point, she was again detained by USA for 3 weeks when it could have been resolved much better and faster.

Yes we agree then. Every country is strict at the border. That’s my point.

there's a difference between sending someone back where they came from (what Canada did) and torturing them (what the US is doing, sleep deprivation is torture).

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Post by slekker »

transcriptase wrote: post #274
tiniuclx wrote: post #257

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What about the new job offer makes you think it is fake?

You run a company in LA. Your visa is revoked. You show up at a different border shortly after with a novel job offer. Is it a genuine job offer or are you going back to run your company?

Can you share the part of the article where this is mentioned or a source?

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Post by jimmydorry »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #342
blindriver wrote: post #317

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Which other countries force visitors through full immigration processing even if they're only in transit?

Canada is at the top of my mind. You need to get a visa and go through the "full immigration processing" even if you are only transiting through and not leaving the airport.
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