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Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by jmb99 »

notepad0x90 wrote: post #422
ghostpepper wrote: post #396

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Forum posts were indexed by search engines - doesn’t that alone provide a minimum level of discoverability?

Based on how search engines behave to day, not really. These days, you'll have to fight spammy forums who game SEO, reddit, stackoverflow, ML digested output,etc.. it is discoverable as in technically it is somewhere in the results, but people never see it. If google paid discord like they pay reddit and searched discord servers that allow for that, that might be a nice compromise.

Add forum or “forum” to your search term and you’ll get results from tons of forums. Yes, you have to know to do that, but once you do, your results will actually be good.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by trinsic2 »

jdwithit wrote: post #418
Legion wrote: post #352

Pushing what used to occur on web forums into Discord chats has been a net loss for the Internet.

Agree 100%. Not the most important example, but I used to be heavily into World of Warcraft. The go-to place for discussion of high end play was a forum run by the guild "Elitist Jerks". Everything was there out in the open, to be read and indexed and discussed and preserved indefinitely. The forum eventually went away, but the info was still available thanks to the Wayback Machine. Fast forward to 2020 when Blizzard…

Yeah a lot of things are going this route unfortunately. RIP to the open internet. Ill still be there when everyone decides they have had enough.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by jmb99 »

crowdstriker wrote: post #354
mech422 wrote: post #351

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As opposed to IRC? Forums? hell - even an email list... All things that are a lot easier to search then Discord, have much lighter clients, and can be done free. Do you really think there was 'no way to communicate' for projects before discord ?

You're comparing ancient obsolete technology to a streamlined instant messaging client. There's a reason they 'just' use Discord. So now you want developers to have to check emails, IRC, forum posts, whatever other outdated communication platform, AND Discord? Why on Earth would they use all that when Discord takes care of all of those features and more. Having more than one central place to communicate is 'hostile'.

> You're comparing ancient obsolete technology to a streamlined instant messaging client.

Just because something is old, doesn’t mean it is bad.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by meta-meta »

nijave wrote: post #414
happyweasel wrote: post #365

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Absolutely. Information can no longer be retrieved via internet search. Discord and Slack are effectively silos.

Sure but you can search for communities then use the platform-native search. Not as convenient as a search engine natively supporting, though.

until the discord server goes down

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by immibis »

lordofgibbons wrote: post #47

The biggest selling point of Discord is its insane network effects. There are servers for libraries/frameworks, languages, ai/ml, math, whatever you can think of. And a lot of the adjacent ones will cross-link scheduled events and messages from other servers. I'm really hoping for an alternative. I'm always weary of en-shitification whenever a single platform wins all the users.. like what has happened to Reddit.

I noticed that, but I also noticed the quality in those "servers" (really groups) is kind of shit? There's way more random off-topic discussion than about the thing you're looking for, and you still have to search through it. And when there isn't, there's nothing (due to fragmentation) and you stop checking.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by tcfhgj »

nijave wrote: post #414
happyweasel wrote: post #365

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely. Information can no longer be retrieved via internet search. Discord and Slack are effectively silos.

Sure but you can search for communities then use the platform-native search. Not as convenient as a search engine natively supporting, though.

you have to have an account, with mobile number

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by keyserj »

trinsic2 wrote: post #429
juliangmp wrote: post #402

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>If I need support with an open source library of some sort, I don't mind using IRC , MS Teams or anything in between. I honestly cannot think of something worse. Chat applications are not forums and they generally suck at replacing them. Not only does this make topics harder to follow and much harder to find to begin with, it also makes the maintainers bother with the same questions again and again, because users ca…

Technically, I think you can make a chat application's chats archivable and searchable, but nobody is going to do that. Discord actually does a better job than I expected, but the text is stuck in the app. It would be great if somehow the chats could be archived in text based format online, but then you would need to write a security model to handle the privacy aspect.

I've landed at AnswerOverflow from Google before. It's a bot you can add to your server so that your server's threads get indexed. I haven't added it to a server myself but it seems decent enough. See https://github.com/AnswerOverflow/AnswerOverflow

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by UberFly »

culi wrote: post #425
happyweasel wrote: post #365

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Absolutely. Information can no longer be retrieved via internet search. Discord and Slack are effectively silos.

Same thing can be said about Twitter and most of Facebook

For now at least. Some day everyone's relatives will be digging through databases of their ancestor's grand wisdom filleted wide open. Maybe it'll even use all that info to recreate an Ai version of them. Sorry just thinking out loud.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by notepad0x90 »

jmb99 wrote: post #431
notepad0x90 wrote: post #422

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on how search engines behave to day, not really. These days, you'll have to fight spammy forums who game SEO, reddit, stackoverflow, ML digested output,etc.. it is discoverable as in technically it is somewhere in the results, but people never see it. If google paid discord like they pay reddit and searched discord servers that allow for that, that might be a nice compromise.

Add forum or “forum” to your search term and you’ll get results from tons of forums. Yes, you have to know to do that, but once you do, your results will actually be good.

thanks, i didn't know that keyword was special.
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