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The impression seems to be warranted: Grok 3 has directly jumpted to the top of all leaderboard categories in Chatbot Arena: https://lmarena.ai/?leaderboard In math it shares the top spot with o1 and is just a few points behind (well within errors). In creative writing it is basically ex-aequo with the latest ChatGPT 4o and in coding it's actually significantly ahead of everyone else and represents a new SOTA.

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There are just more regulations to comply with before a release. OpenAI's new Deep Research tool wasn't originally available in the EU either, but it was released less then a week after it came out in the US. Since the EU is a gigantic market with a lot of buying power and this release makes a strong case for people to switch over from competitors, I doubt it'll take long.

> There are just more regulations to comply with before a release. If you do collect personal data and do funky stuff with it. Another approach would be to not collect that personal data until you have the right process in place, and basically be regulation-compatible out-of-the-door on day one.

When regulations become sufficiently burueacrafied it's extremely easy to accidentally violate them doing completely normal things. As a really random example, in California when you operate a foodcart it's not enough to just keep your area and wares in sanitary condition, instead you need a dish washing bin of a minimum of exactly 'x' inches 10.5 IIRC.

A guy who was just ensuring he was preparing clean healthy food, keeping everything sanitary and all that might assume he was naturally obeying all regulations. But that assumption can cost one a big fat fine (leading to fun scenarios like a food cart vendor needing a compliance legal team), and given Musk's relationship with the EU - they'd love to crucify him him on any possible technicality they can find.

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> Currently, Grok Web is not accessible in the United Kingdom or the countries of the European Union. We are diligently working to extend our services to these regions, prioritizing compliance with local data protection and privacy laws to ensure your information remains safely secure. I suppose you can take that to mean that people who do have access to the service should not expect much in terms of data protection.

Do you mean data protection or political correctness/control of discourse protection?

I think they meant data protection. You can tell by how they said "data protection".

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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I'm very sorry if this isn't the case, but this message really feels LLM-written.

It’s gracious of you to say that you’d be sorry, and I did run my comment through 4o (perhaps ironically) which caught a slew of typos and weird grammar issues and offered some improvements. But the robotic sound and anything else you don’t like are my own responsibility. Do you, perhaps, have any thoughts on the substance of the comment?

It's not the robotic sound or the content. 4o has very easy tells that it wrote (rewrote) the content. It uses an insane amount of em dashes.

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Grok has gotten to the top of one benchmark: https://x.com/lmarena_ai/status/1891706264800936307 It's been said before but it is great news for consumers that there's so much competition in the LLM space. If it's hard for any one player to get daylight between them & the 2nd best alternative, hopefully that means one monopolistic firm isn't going to be sucking up all the value created by these things

Who cares about benchmarks? These things still cost me time because of hallucinations.

You’re a very poor user of LLMs if they’re not a net time saver for you.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Off topic, but just in case: is there a good reference on how people actually use LLMs on a daily basis ? All my attempts so far have been pretty underwhelming: * when I use chatbots as search engines, I'm very quickly disappointed by obvious hallucinations * I ended up disabling github copilot because it was just "auto-complete on steroids" at best, and "auto-complete on mushrooms" at worst * I rarely have use cases…

I find them useful for searching for some function or API name with natural language. 'What's the function call [in blah] that generates a quaternion from a couple of vectors?' type stuff. Not exactly inspiring but I've found it highly useful. If you try to search for something like that online (and somebody hasn't asked the exact question on e.g. stack overflow) you'll just end up getting all the documentation for quaternions, vectors, and blah - when the function itself might even be in a tertiary math library.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Grok has gotten to the top of one benchmark: https://x.com/lmarena_ai/status/1891706264800936307 It's been said before but it is great news for consumers that there's so much competition in the LLM space. If it's hard for any one player to get daylight between them & the 2nd best alternative, hopefully that means one monopolistic firm isn't going to be sucking up all the value created by these things

Probably bad news for the vendors, though. I genuinely struggle to see how most of these LLM companies are going to monetize and profit off their efforts with LLMs already in commodity territory. Government contracts can only flow for so long?

Yes, I couldn't have imagined that in the end, the AI wrappers are where the money is.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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post #408

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are just more regulations to comply with before a release. OpenAI's new Deep Research tool wasn't originally available in the EU either, but it was released less then a week after it came out in the US. Since the EU is a gigantic market with a lot of buying power and this release makes a strong case for people to switch over from competitors, I doubt it'll take long.

> There are just more regulations to comply with before a release. If you do collect personal data and do funky stuff with it. Another approach would be to not collect that personal data until you have the right process in place, and basically be regulation-compatible out-of-the-door on day one.

Even if you don't collect personal data, you need to comply with regulations to document properly the fact that you do not collect personal data.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

#440

Billions spent, one of the most powerful AI developed, and still no one competent enough to trim the 15 mins of waiting time filler at the beginning of the announcement video...

Tells me they have spent their entire engineering time on engineering and zero on marketing fluff, which is good.

doesn't look like so that they have spent zero on marketing fluff still...
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