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Why Canada Should Join the EU

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Re: Why Canada Should Join the EU

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There's a certain amount of people that can adapt to a place, but if too many people of common culture comes in they just hijack the place. In Canada it seems to me they didn't establish the limit properly and people also worked around it by moving within Canada disregarding the agreement that they'd stay in a certain zone that still had some slack of people they could integrate.

Hijacking deprives someone else of their rights. Living differently than your neighbor doesn’t change anything for your neighbor. Nothing is “hijacked”.

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Re: Why Canada Should Join the EU

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I'm generally not a fan of integrating more and more countries into ever larger political unions.

Countries are a bit like experiments or alternatives and that's a good thing!

While I don't think that we'll see a one world government in my lifetime, I believe that Canada joining the EU would be a sort of approximation of that and would be bad for our Canadian experiment.

Re: Why Canada Should Join the EU

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Canada is in a demographic crisis: The birthrate is too low, the population is aging and the country can’t afford to provide people with all of the social benefits AND have no laborers paying in to the benefit system. Importing lots of young labor rebalances the demographics and bolsters funding of benefits, at the expense of a housing crisis and social tensions. The alternative is to deeply cut benefits, which is po…

Canada could have imported as many young educated people as it wanted from Eastern European countries, Russia, former USSR members etc. What happens in reality is they can't get enough points due to some truly moronic rules. Yet somehow we mostly have people from other parts of the world whose main specialty is food delivery.

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Re: Why Canada Should Join the EU

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> c) ... It's crazy to me how many old people who self-identify as conservatives / capitalists have no qualms about using their political pull to get government muscle to kill competition in real estate using the building permitting process. Free markets mean free markets. Charlie Munger was right: it's all about incentives.

Traditionalist when it comes to pensions. They paid their share, so young workers should pay them high pensions for decades after retirement. Capitalists when it comes to ownership. They've made the investments, so young workers should work hard and accept lower wages to pay them shareholder profits. Company taxes should be low. Socialists when it comes to healthcare. They are old and fragile, so young workers should…

> young workers should pay high taxes on their labour to help the old people needing socialized service

Which will be largely paid for and staffed by immigrants.

Re: Why Canada Should Join the EU

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>Importing lots of young labor Everything old is new again, in this case slavery. What century is this, the 17th? I thought we graduated from hauling tons of slaves across oceans.

Who else is going to do menial jobs for low pay when the current citizenry have access to higher paying jobs?

Teenagers and old people. This is no longer possible though. In my area there were hundreds of people (mostly immigrants) lining up at 4am in the hopes of getting a job at a grocery store.

> for low pay

Why not raise the pay? Why is the solution to devalue labor by massively increasing supply? This is what leads to decades of little to no wage growth.

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> Diversity is wonderful Why? You literally say on your very next sentence that it’s not - that diversity must be destroyed through integration and a melting pot. Diversity and immigration always has a cost and that’s the destruction of your existing culture in part. Sometimes that tradeoff is worth it. But you can’t overdo it. And getting pissed at the people that don’t integrate is barking up the wrong tree. They n…

I get some amusement out of people who are afraid of other cultures. Having a lot of cultures smooshed together is a culture. How do you think you got the culture you have now? Pro tip: the culture that existed when you were 12 years old might seem like it's the most emotionally 'correct' but it represents a blip in time and is no more or less significant than what came before or after it. Have some sense of perspect…

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Re: Why Canada Should Join the EU

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A bunch of states ought to get split into multiple because it would result in a better mapping of state governments to economic and cultural lines and result in better representation for all parties on the state level. Of course it will never happen for a multitude of reasons

IMO, remove the cap on the house of representatives and go back to the original method in the constitution (1/30k). And then if you and ~30k other citizens all agree to sign for a specific representative then they're in the house but you can't vote for a different guy in the normal election.

Yeah that'd help at the federal level but the state level impacts people more on the day to day IMO.

Re: Why Canada Should Join the EU

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Canada is in a demographic crisis: The birthrate is too low, the population is aging and the country can’t afford to provide people with all of the social benefits AND have no laborers paying in to the benefit system. Importing lots of young labor rebalances the demographics and bolsters funding of benefits, at the expense of a housing crisis and social tensions. The alternative is to deeply cut benefits, which is po…

>Importing lots of young labor Everything old is new again, in this case slavery. What century is this, the 17th? I thought we graduated from hauling tons of slaves across oceans.

Apparently everything banal is hyperbole again.
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