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Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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FWIW, it was the same (even at the enterprise level). We had a commodity (local cloud) computing Dell infra in the mid 2010s and were constantly replacing/returning “simple stuff” (fans, support flanges, memory, NICs). “Dude, you’re gettn’ a Dell” became—-nope, never again.

I feel like there are not good quality hardware company nowadays. Dell: the land of motherboard dying and dog shit trackpads. Asus: dead soldered RAM. Most BIOS: too long to boot, it's fucking 2024 what is your BIOS doing it needs more than 2s to boot? It was taking the same time to boot 30 years ago. Every mouse: double click problem due to wrong use of the actuators. And every hardware company has to try to cram so…

> too long to boot, it's fucking 2024 what is your BIOS doing it needs more than 2s to boot?

Me crying in first-gen Ryzen/x370 with my upward of 20 seconds POST time.

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Except for gaming, is there any practical use for refresh above 60Hz?

Yes. It makes the experience much better when anything is moving. Hard to convince by words, it’s a try it and then go back to 60 to see what you’re missing. Similar to hard drive vs SSD. Before I used a machine with a SSD for the first time hard drives were fine, then my normal was conditioned to that of SSD speeds. Going back to hard drive speeds is painful, just like 60hz even for things like moving windows around…

Seems to be a rather subjective thing. Going from 4k to 1080p literally causes me headaches, going from 240Hz to 60Hz feels normal after a minute or two. Yes, it feels nicer, but that's it for the most part. Not something that makes me want to update the screen right now.

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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After 15 years of having a desk job I find that I’m more sensitive to the position I sit in. My back feels a lot better if I have a single, regular sized screen right in front of me, instead of having additional screen estate on the sides or below (as with a laptop). At the same time I use virtual desktops that I can switch with both keyboard and mouse.

I'm the same. I use a single 27" 4k monitor and use virtual desktops. The best upgrade for me though was getting a computer prescription for some glasses that I keep on my desk. Sometimes I think about upgrading to a 5k monitor. The Apple Studio Display looks great, but I'm a Windows user and I'm guessing a lot of the nice features of that display are Mac-only. There aren't a whole lot of options for 5k monitors. Oth…

There are several 5k to appear next year: Benq, ALogic, maybe somrthing else. There are also chinese noname 5k monitors which use panel rejects of ASD.

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Nobody's stopping you from segmenting one big monitor into different regions; and you get to choose how big those regions are from day to day rather than being forced into it.

They tend to be relatively poorly handled by the software, at least out of the box. Every modern major OS now has some level of tiling/splitting on a monitor's edges baked into their window manager by default now. Some can be tweaked to split into smaller subgroups, but that often requires less well tested/polished options (some apps just ignore the hints), or even third party extensions.

Works great with Display Fusion on Windows.

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Author here, ask me anything! Apart from programming, one of the motivations for getting the 8K display is to look at lidar point clouds. For example the desktop background in my post is a lidar map of Bernal Hill in San Francisco, which I've here downsampled to only 13006 x 7991 px for your convenience [1]. Admittedly, when I bought it at first, I didn't realize there would be so many random issues, as manufacturers…

I don't know many Linux users doing 4k+ at 144hz. I am wondering if you do any screen capture or desktop recording, and if so what software you use and what your experience is like? I cannot reliably capture 4k/144hz with my setup but my desktop environment is still on X11. I tried KDE/Wayland and had a better experience, but run into other bugs based on their integration. Just curious how your experience with sway h…

Its slow because there is no singular Wayland just 12 different waylands that diverge because the primary standard is underspecified and took 16 years for people to agree on functionality people agreed was needed in 1999.

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Sounds like a recipe for neck pain.

I'll never understand why some people think multi-monitors involves neck pain. It's a complete non-issue. I have a chair with a headrest, my neck never has to move at all, I can see all parts of the screen just by scanning my eyes. Very rarely does my neck ever move and it's usually to see the 65" Tv a few feet over - and even then my chair has a swivel and if I'm watching the Tv more than the computer, my chair will…

> I'll never understand why some people think multi-monitors involves neck pain. It's a complete non-issue.

I can only speak from my own experience, and from what I heard others expressing online over the years.

For me, it was absolutely real and I thought for a while I had some other medical condition.

My issue was that I spent too much time of the day reading of the monitor to my left, twisting my neck while doing it. After a few years I started getting worse and worse neck pains.

I have seen this confirmed many times since by others online.

So please be aware this is an issue, but I am happy that your body still haven't said no.

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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That's simply too big a screen to be sitting right in front of. I do agree on the basic idea of not running two monitors tho. I used to, and I got neck pains eventually. My current setup is a single 32" curved QHD monitor and I wouldn't change it for the world. It's just the right size so you can see the whole screen at once, yet large enough to run 3 browsers side by side. Also, I want to suggest people to learn abo…

I use a Macbook - but the slow and cumbersome animations for virtual desktops mean that I hardly use them.

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Have been sporting a 4K LG CX48 OLED since ~Sept, 2020 best monitor decision ever. I've got two HDMI out cables, 1 going to my gaming rig and the other for my Macbook where I do my work as a developer. I haven't noticed any burn-in or dead pixels. You need to set it up for success, enable all the burn-in prevention settings the monitor provides (static image darkening, pixel shifting&cleaning). It's also a great idea…

Have you managed to get good text rendering? I still can't find how to get good sub-pixel anti-aliasing working for the text sizes I want to use on my LG 42" OLED.

It's otherwise awesome though, for the type of gaming I do (non-competitive, so stuff like D4 and Cyberpunk) it's completely unmatched.

I just wish it was a little bit better for smashing out code without annoying text fringing that distracts me.

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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post #407

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW, it was the same (even at the enterprise level). We had a commodity (local cloud) computing Dell infra in the mid 2010s and were constantly replacing/returning “simple stuff” (fans, support flanges, memory, NICs). “Dude, you’re gettn’ a Dell” became—-nope, never again.

I feel like there are not good quality hardware company nowadays. Dell: the land of motherboard dying and dog shit trackpads. Asus: dead soldered RAM. Most BIOS: too long to boot, it's fucking 2024 what is your BIOS doing it needs more than 2s to boot? It was taking the same time to boot 30 years ago. Every mouse: double click problem due to wrong use of the actuators. And every hardware company has to try to cram so…

Why does boot time matter? Is something wrong with the sleep mode in your laptop?

> tho@phobos:/usr/local/src/sbcl$ uptime 11:31:50 up 250 days, 21:10, 1 user, load average: 0.60, 0.37, 0.40

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