32gb RAM max?
I don't understand, macbooks on battery power have 128gb, why this limitation on an always powered device
New iMac with M4
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#432I love in Apple product announcements when they show people doing tasks that not only don't require recent hardware, but in fact could have been done without much trouble 20 or 30 years ago. Specifically talking about the ice cream spreadsheet that I suppose was there to show off how small businesses can use the new iMac. I'm sure it's a fine machine, but it does to me highlight the upgrade treadmill.
> iMac with M4 features the world’s fastest CPU core, making multitasking across apps like Safari and Excel lightning fast.
This stuck out for me too, plus the examples of using Siri on the desktop. I reckon that invoking Siri to say, "Send Gema a text" and then having to proofread and approve the message is more effort than just sending Gema a text. Same for typing out "turn on do not disturb".
You could imagine the argument being that there are a lot of deep settings or hidden controls that people would like to find, but then wouldn't a vector search that shows relevant settings be just about the same outcome?
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#433As someone who mucks around with running LLMs and other large models on my computer the 32GB maximum RAM is a show-stopper for me. I'm on a M2 with 64GB at the moment and I'm already regretting not going for 96 or even 128. I want to be able to run a large model AND other apps at the same time.
When shopping for a new car to take to the race track on the weekends did you stop and point out that the Honda Odyssey's suspension is too soft?
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#434Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is preventing them from launching a 27" version? I've been waiting to upgrade our 2017 model in the living room, was hoping the 27" was finally going to come now. Guess Mac Mini is the only route to go...
> What is preventing them from launching a 27" version? most likely they (apple) think that would eat into some other market segment. for a 27" station they probably want you to get a mac mini with a studio display. apple is known for "gently (but firmly) nudging" you towards the more expensive options.
It does seem that way, doesn't it? Shame, it was the perfect form factor for family room, office front desk.
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#435Accessories are updated to USB-C instead of Lightning
I see lots of people in this thread mentioning this, but am confused. I've never seen a lighting port on an Apple computer- only on iphones and ipads, and the cables that come with those are USB-C on the other end. Haven't all Apple computer accessories been USB-C for almost a decade now?
The past: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102292
> Recharge the built-in battery in your Apple keyboard, mouse, or trackpad [...] To charge your device's battery, connect a Lightning to USB cable to its Lightning port,
The future: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/10/apple-introduces-new-...
> Every iMac comes with a color-matched Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse or optional Magic Trackpad, all of which now feature a USB-C port, so users can charge their favorite devices with a single cable.
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#436Question. Is this "Apple Intelligence" phoning home all the time?
It's worse: Any file you open results in phoning home, Intelligence or not, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25074959
That’s overstating what happened there and what was sent. OCSP validation happened only for signed executables and the only bit of information is the hash of the developer certificate being verified, which was not logged in conjunction with your IP.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/11/mac-certificate-chec...
Typically when there are concerns about phoning home it’s both more detailed information and something being traceable back to an individual.
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#43716GB base RAM, they finally did it. They also did move the Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse to USB-C.
Now if only they could figure out how to allow charging the Magic Mouse while it’s being used. I guess that technology is still years away.
This is form-over-function, classic Apple. They don't want to give even the slightest impression that they are selling a wired mouse.
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#438Earlier quoted context omitted.
The iMacs very much aren't their main seller. A couple of key demographics use it though: * Families with a shared computer in a common room. Super simple to setup, no fiddling, low price. In the video Apple showcased this use case. My parents have an M3 imac and it works great. They had their last iMac for ten years. * Businesses buy these for reception areas and customers see the Apple logo on the back. Easy soluti…
My daughter's orthodontist has one of these behind every chair. Our dentist has them too. HN honestly is a terrible source of information for 1) What sells 2) What might sell
I have been to a on orthodontist office which didn't have any iMac.
I wouldn't apply this observation to judge if the product makes sense
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#439I love the innovation Apple has brought with their investment in ARM. That said, I can't imagine buying a computer in the 21st century that can't be opened and upgraded, especially with a price premium attached. I just don't get it. I am in no way trying to be combative, but I'd love to hear a counterpoint that makes sense for these machines.
> that can't be opened and upgraded
One of the reasons I don’t buy into Apple’s marketing gimmicks especially when it comes to the “carbon neutral” initiative.
> especially with a price premium attached. I just don't get it.
Apple is a public company. Investors expect them to churn out profit so stonk goes up. As long as users are trapped in their Apple ecosystem/wall, then they will keep buying. If the devices were open and upgradable then the company will not be able to charge a stupid high markup for RAM or storage.
If products were easily upgradable, consumers would buy the base model configurable SKUs then take their business to repair shop and get ram and storage upgraded at a fraction of the cost Apple would provide out the door.
> but I'd love to hear a counterpoint that makes sense for these machines.
There is no counterpoint. Most people (ie, not fanboys) would agree with you. There is absolutely zero reason for devices to not be upgradable or easily serviceable. You don’t become a trillion dollar company by playing nice with your users.
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#440Earlier quoted context omitted.
My uncle is on his third iMac. He owns them for a decade at a time. When he sends emails, the subject is always "From " because he shared an email account with my aunt years ago and even though he no longer does, he still puts his name in the subject. That's the target buyer.
glorified e-mail client for $1200. Nice.
For a decade. That works out to $10 a month. Not a bad deal.