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Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

Animats wrote: post #399

Nice hardware. They're down to swim goggle size. Then you see what Facebook wants you to do with it - see screens in front of you all the time. One with Facebook's "Recommended" page, and a video of some talking neckbeard. There's a feeling of "we were promised virtual reality, and all we got was talking heads of influencers." The hardware apparently has GPS, but that's turned off. So, no Pokemon Go yet. Not even Hyp…

Further evidence to the truth of this:

The best minds of my generation are thinking about how to make people click ads.

–Jeff Hammerbacher

Oh lament! for what, not just the future, but the present, could have been.

Edited to add: But! Even as I have just written that and stand by it, I just don't know if humanity could have done it any other way. One must sell their soul to 'the green', even just a little, to have the time and space for the kind of creativity that will create a better future. Will we forever have to wade, neck-deep, through trash to find each tiny piece of the puzzle that, when enough pieces are put together, forms at least a picture of a brighter future?

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Post by tambourine_man »

thehappypm wrote: post #423
tambourine_man wrote: post #384

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No, it's a GIF , in the file format sense. Se for yourself: https://about.fb.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/01_Why-AR-Gl... They have since optimized it and it now weights 23.5MB. Yey. I just converted it to MP4 and it's 1.7MB. Hire me Meta, I can make your videos load 10X faster with a single ffmpeg command.

Is mp4 a drop-in replacement in practice for gif?

In most cases, yes. But even when it's not, I'd be hard pressed to justify 10X the size while having worse fps, colors, battery life, etc.

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Post by stevage »

wilsonnb3 wrote: post #32

Decent hands on article from the verge with more info https://www.theverge.com/24253908/meta-orion-ar-glasses-demo... Wireless compute puck. 70 degree FOV. Resolution high enough to read text. Wrist band detects hand gestures and will be used in another product.

Way more informative and interesting than the press release.

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Post by jknoepfler »

paul7986 wrote: post #428
pazimzadeh wrote: post #415

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This is very interesting. The company that looks most poised to capitalize on a product like this is still Apple. Wireless compute puck = iPhone Wrist band = Apple watch (although most people wear it on their non-dominant hand) From the videos it looks like Meta adopted Apple's UI of a horizontal handle bar underneath a window for interacting with a piece of content. Considering that the 100 degree field of view of t…

Apple selling a device that causes privacy issues (a camera always in your face as a non-user)..seems like a stretch. Facebook seems better aligned in that regards.

That's literally all Apple sells, though, in terms of hardware.

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Post by kentm »

impulser_ wrote: post #367
wewtyflakes wrote: post #321

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The first iphones and ipods were stunning for their time; they changed the industry and people would wait for hours on end in line at stores. It seems like a reach to compare these glasses to that.

I'm not comparing actual devices. I'm comparing how large they were when they were first released. The original iPod and iPhones were bricks compared to what the latest/last versions and it didn't have a touch screen and cameras. The point is, the size of new technology tend to shrink fast.

You are incorrect about the original iPhone. It was marginally thicker but it had smaller width and height than current iPhones.

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Post by aprilthird2021 »

pazimzadeh wrote: post #415
wilsonnb3 wrote: post #32

Decent hands on article from the verge with more info https://www.theverge.com/24253908/meta-orion-ar-glasses-demo... Wireless compute puck. 70 degree FOV. Resolution high enough to read text. Wrist band detects hand gestures and will be used in another product.

This is very interesting. The company that looks most poised to capitalize on a product like this is still Apple. Wireless compute puck = iPhone Wrist band = Apple watch (although most people wear it on their non-dominant hand) From the videos it looks like Meta adopted Apple's UI of a horizontal handle bar underneath a window for interacting with a piece of content. Considering that the 100 degree field of view of t…

> The company that looks most poised to capitalize on a product like this is still Apple.

It's also possible they don't ever put out an offering in this form factor. They never released a dual screen phone. They never released a touchscreen laptop. This might be one of those things they just don't touch.

Also, I wonder if they'll have a tough time filling the form factor with stuff to do. The lack of apps was a huge reason the APV flopped, while Meta has a large headstart in making it possible for devs to build for their device, even those without exp in spatial dev / game dev / etc.

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Post by marcolussetti »

tremarley wrote: post #425
sharkweek wrote: post #392

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Nick Clegg (public affairs guy at FB) is currently lobbying to get VR headsets on schoolchildren. I can't think of anything I want less than my kids wearing those things while in class all day. https://nickclegg.medium.com/how-the-metaverse-can-transform...

Nick Clegg, the former Prime Minister of the UK?

Former Deputy Prime Minister of the UK, but yes, that's the one.

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Post by stevage »

tremarley wrote: post #425
sharkweek wrote: post #392

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nick Clegg (public affairs guy at FB) is currently lobbying to get VR headsets on schoolchildren. I can't think of anything I want less than my kids wearing those things while in class all day. https://nickclegg.medium.com/how-the-metaverse-can-transform...

Nick Clegg, the former Prime Minister of the UK?

Yes, that guy. Was he actually pm? Or just opposition leader? Either way, him.

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Post by aprilthird2021 »

auggierose wrote: post #361

> We don’t think people should have to make the choice between a world of information at your fingertips and being present in the physical world around you. What a weird mission statement.

Why? The biggest complaint about the smartphone, a world-changing device, is that it keeps people from being present in the world around them. If you can remove that biggest complaint, huge improvement, right?

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Post by paul7986 »

jknoepfler wrote: post #434
paul7986 wrote: post #428

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Apple selling a device that causes privacy issues (a camera always in your face as a non-user)..seems like a stretch. Facebook seems better aligned in that regards.

That's literally all Apple sells, though, in terms of hardware.

They sell hardware that prompts privacy concerns?

Many conversations you will have when you wear smart glasses (I wear meta's ray bans often since October) is people's concerns..oh u are filming me and I don't know ..stuff to that extent.

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