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Post by bastijn »

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

Im there with you, my wife as well as myself are in fact like your girlfriend and I work an highly educated software engineering role. I simply don’t care, still on my iPhone 11 Pro Max which I got as a present from my parents at the time.

I think battery power drain is even not fast enough for phone companies to sustain the selling Model. My guess is sooner or later they realize the real control point is software updates and they forcefully shorten OS and specially OS security updates under a bullshit reason they still can get away with to get us all back in line of buying regular phone upgrades in fear of hacked internet banking.

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Post by mihaaly »

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

Not only when the battery runs bad. That can be renewed (sometimes, my 1st gen SE from the last batch runs the second battery pack, probably the last batch of batteries available).

Also when you are forced by apps you need that want the newest hardware by some reason. I mean when most of them, because some could be missed for a while, but when most you use are just refuse to work, then it is time to get a new one.

Not like you need the new app, it is the same like with the iPhone 'features' you mention, but when your bank app cannot connect the bank when it is the newest version minus 2, then it becomes a nuisance.

Not like I am afraid of tech, I have cool interconnected home appliances built from raspberrys and make my living on developing desktop tools, but the rampage of the mobile industry is just too much to handle. It does not worth the money and time they demand, getting in the way of my life as much as helping it. By now. It was better but getting worse as we speak.

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Post by eigenvalue »

I get so much utility from my iPhone that it’s worth many times what it costs to me. So I’ve been on the upgrade program since it came out and get the new model every year. I always look forward to getting the new phone, even though at this point the improvements are incremental. But it’s very much worth it to me just to get better looking videos and photos of my small children. And stuff like better battery life has obvious utility. I’m just on my phone so much of the day and use it for so many different things that having it be a few percent better in a bunch of categories is a no brainer. And it’s often more than just a few percent!

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Post by lelandfe »

usaphp wrote: post #285

I love how ridiculous the scene to showcase Apple's Intelligence ability to tell you what bread the dog was. Instead of simply asking a women what breed her dog was - he had to open a camera app on his iPhone, ask a women a permission to take a photo of the dog, wait until the AI gives him an answer...

“Is that rain?” https://youtube.com/watch?v=EP1YAatv1Mc

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Post by influx »

gffrd wrote: post #257
panarky wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Insanely good ideas"? With the months of nonstop and over-the-top hype of "Apple Intelligence" these all seem underwhelming. Even in the idealized world of demoware there's no killer feature, not to mention that none of it is even available to real customers yet. I was expecting something only Apple could do with their vast ecosystem of IP and partnerships, the must-have cool new thing that would stimulate a leap in…

> there's no killer feature You know when you go to a restaurant and the menu is like 3 different cuisines, it's 12 pages, and each page has 20+ items? The Intelligence section of the presentation felt a bit like that. Generally, I was surprised how lightly Intelligence featured into the keynote: it wasn't a standalone talking point, nothing on the Apple site talks to it directly. It's conspicuous, given that they've…

I thought you were going to say the iPhone would be able to load the QR code for that menu, summarize it, sort it by ingredient or calories and give you a recommendation without you having to read it... Now I'm kinda bummed out.

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Post by ryoshu »

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

My daily is an iPhone 12 Pro and I work on bleeding edge tech daily. I don't need to upgrade. It works fine. Had to replace it when it had a battery problem. There are no features I need from the newer models.

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Post by cmcaleer »

cube2222 wrote: post #19

I was planning to upgrade this year, and probably still will, but honestly, the differences between the base model and pro model this year are fairly limited. ProMotion, Always-on display, a bunch more resistant to fall damage, and a camera that is better, but doesn't look like a lot. I'm a bit worried about the Apple Intelligence features, as they've been very prominent on WWDC, but were fairly toned-down today. Not…

Presumably the AI features getting widely derided at WWDC influenced the script. I’m totally fine with generative AI, but I cringed when I saw the images they generated for the demo at WWDC. Just awful stuff.

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Post by _ph_ »

unsnap_biceps wrote: post #72
dblitt wrote: post #30

Notably, only the pro models support USB 3. The base 16/16 plus are still on USB 2. This hasn't changed from the 15 lineup when they switched to USB-C.

what do you use that usb 3 speeds matter? The only thing ever plugged into my phones port is a charger.

They said that the iPhone can record video directly to external storage, so you would need the faster USB speed for that. Quite a nice feature for productions which use the iPhone for professional video.

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Post by cmcaleer »

em500 wrote: post #172
nabaraz wrote: post #48

I remember people lining up outside apple stores on the pre-order day. What has happened now? Have we seen the peak of smartphones until something new comes along and spur a new super-cycle?

Well I still remember people lining up outside of computer stores to buy Windows 95. Some people line up about pretty random things.

As a trend in general it feels pretty dead, at least in tech and gaming.
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