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Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by bart_spoon »

yodsanklai wrote: post #18
Hamuko wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> With the remote work push, the argument about talent pool is moot as well. Isn't Elon massively anti-remote?

Not only Elon Musk. Lots of companies are backtracking on full remote work. Statu quo seems to be hybrid work for many big companies.

And yet just today I read an article about how more than half of tech CEOs now are allowing workers to work fully remote if the choose, which is up from closer to 35% a year ago. It’s possible some of the RTO push was to get people to leave, or that management, underestimated how unpopular it would be with employees, or perhaps the simplest explanation: management is mostly a cargo cult just throwing spaghetti at the wall, with no real rhyme or reason behind their decision making.

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Post by JS-Sound »

seizethecheese wrote: post #399
janalsncm wrote: post #371

Had a recruiter call with Twitter a few months ago. Mandatory in office 5 days per week. Among other things, an hour commute both ways to work was not acceptable. Maybe they will have better luck in Santa Clara. I don’t buy any of the flamebait reasons for leaving SF. Reason 1 is money and reason 2 is talent pool.

I’ve had several meetings, either in Twitter office or around it, and the street scene is very bad in that part of SF. If the claim is that this is a motivation for the move, it certainly passes the sniff test for me.

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Post by vehemenz »

brabel wrote: post #328
timeon wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nor really. It used to work for all people with browser now it is only for logged-in.

That was already the case before Musk bought it.

Wrong. I don't understand why people attempt to make corrections like this.

Anyone could browse Twitter anonymously, since the beginning.

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

ascorbic wrote: post #353
anon291 wrote: post #273

Realistically, X is better than its ever been; community notes have been a game-changer in terms of fact-checking. Higher quality and much more balanced.

Community notes predate Musk. They're a lot more common now, but they're needed more than ever too. Meanwhile spam is everywhere (except in the "probable spam" section) and all ads are scams.

Community notes by themselves do not do much if the network administration has severe bias vs one side of political spectrum.

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Post by EricE »

lubujackson wrote: post #429
_kava wrote: post #7

I understand this is HN and many here love SF so can you explain to me how or why a company would want to have a physical location in downtown SF? It is expensive, higher tax, more regulations, all of which are often hated by a pure capitalist corporation. With the remote work push, the argument about talent pool is moot as well. IMO, moving out of SF is the correct choice. In fact, moving out of CA is also a correct…

It is an attractive location for young people that want to live in SF instead of the boring burbs. Downtown has a ton of food options for lunch. You can walk over to a Giants game or to the waterfront. Union Square in particular has turned into something of a trash heap, but FiDi to the north and SOMA to the south are (mostly) attractive. It is easily accessible for anyone on BART or Muni lines so you may not need to…

There are a lot of very readily apparent reasons you are apparently ignoring as to why your company got a much lower rent rate than someone who signed in 2019. Seriously - the ability for people to ignore multiple, rather large elephants in the room is hilarious.

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Post by MSFT_Edging »

smsm42 wrote: post #401
aqme28 wrote: post #346

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My first week working in a finance firm in midtown Manhattan there was a significant shooting. These things happen everywhere (edit: in the US) unfortunately. I'm not convinced that a more suburban location that forces people to drive would actually be any safer.

If by "everywhere" you mean "major megapolises with crime problems", then yes, everywhere. Otherwise, no, not everywhere, and yes, in a suburban location a chance of a shooting happening under your very office window is extremely low. Living/working in a megapolis has its advantages, but let's not paint over its downsides also. Criminals want the same advantages too.

Cities tend to have a lower per-capita crime rate, it's just dense and visible.

This is just suburban paranoia. Crime happens.

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