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Apple's On-Device and Server Foundation Models

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Re: Apple's On-Device and Server Foundation Models

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Post by user_7832 »

barbecue_sauce wrote: post #423
tivert wrote: post #408

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> On the other hand, people who laughed at them removing the 3.5mm jack can still safely laugh away. > Then laugh at Samsung and their flagship line of phones as well, since they haven't had headphone jacks for a while now. "After Note 10 dumps headphone jack, Samsung ads mocking iPhone dongles disappear" (2019): I totally do. One of the problems with Apple is the industry seems to mindlessly ape their good and bad…

At the time I felt like Apple was getting rid of the 3.5mm jack as a potential bottleneck for future iPhone designs (as one of the limiting aspects of form factor), but there still doesn't seem to be anything design-wise to justify it, even several years later. It is very clear now that it was merely to encourage Air Pod adoption.

I would say this was obvious to the cynical of us from the very beginning. Unless you are trying to go portless (for water resistance perhaps?) or have a very thin phone, there’s very little benefits of removing the jack… except to drive airpod sales, of course.

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Post by dgellow »

tmpz22 wrote: post #149
vzaliva wrote: post #67

I love that they use machinelearning.apple.com not ai.apple.com

For the majority of the keynote they explicitly avoided the word AI instead substituting the word Intelligence, then Apple Intelligence, and then towards the end they said AI and ChatGPT once or twice. I think they saw the response to all the AI shoveling and Microsoft Recall and executed a fantastic strategy to reposition themselves in industry discussions. I still have tons of reservations about privacy and what th…

What excites you specifically as a developer?

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Post by aixpert »

GaggiX wrote: post #2

It would be cool to understand when the system will use one or the other (the ~3 billion on-device model or the bigger one on Apple servers).

if you have ever used a 3 billion or 7 billion parameter model you know that they are really bad at text generation, so this will be done in the cloud

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Post by viktorcode »

WiSaGaN wrote: post #169
rishabhjain1198 wrote: post #166

For people interested in AI research, there's nothing new here. IMO they should do a better job of referencing existing papers and techniques. The way they wrote about "adaptors" can make it seem like it's something novel, but it's actually just re-iterating vanilla LoRA. It was enough to convince one of the top-voted HackerNews comments that this was a "huge development". Benchmarks are nice though.

This gives me the vibe of calling high resolution screens as "retina" screens.

Retina means high pixel density, not high resolution. And there are very few standalone displays on the market which can be called “retina”, unfortunately.

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Post by dgellow »

boxed wrote: post #359
orbital-decay wrote: post #337

> 2. Represent our users: We build deeply personal products with the goal of representing users around the globe authentically. We work continuously to avoid perpetuating stereotypes and systemic biases across our AI tools and models. How do they represent users around the globe authentically while being located in Cupertino, CA? (more of a rhetorical question really)

I wish I could have one keyboard on my iPhone and could type both Swedish and English with it. These are the basics they can't get right, and I don't see why. They clearly have bilingual people working over there, why is this so bad?

I share your pain, switching between English, German, and French is really, really frustrating…

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Post by whynotminot »

wkat4242 wrote: post #209
kfrzcode wrote: post #193

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"AI for the rest of us."

Except Apple isn't really for the rest of us. Outside of America and a handful wealthy western countries it's for the top 5-20% earners only.

Who do you think this presentation is geared toward?

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Post by Tijdreiziger »

steve1977 wrote: post #406
rmbyrro wrote: post #380

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I think you misinterpreted OP's comment. Apple makes it sound like there's smth new, but there isn't. They don't have to innovate, but it's good practice to credit who've done what they're taking and using. Also to use the names everyone else is already using.

> Also to use the names everyone else is already using. That would be a very un-Apple thing to do. They really like to use their own marketing terms for technologies. It's not ARM, it's Apple Silicon. It wasn't Wi-Fi, it was AirPort. etc. etc.

See also: FireWire, iSight, Retina, FaceTime, etc.

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Post by [deleted] »

jb1991 wrote: post #398
Matl wrote: post #391

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On the other hand, people who laughed at them removing the 3.5mm jack can still safely laugh away.

Interesting that you suggest laughing at their decision to remove the headphone jack, when it was actually just the first of an industry-wide shift that has done so by other companies.

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

theshrike79 wrote: post #325
fauigerzigerk wrote: post #323

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They have been trying and failing to do a tiny little bit of this. It's so broken and useless that I've been uploading all my iCloud photos to Google as well, for search and sharing.

If you like Google using your personal photos for machine learning, that's your option. Now they have your every photo, geotagged and timestamped so they can see where you have been and at what times. Then they of course anonymise that information into an "advertiser id" they tag on to you and a sufficient quantity of other people so they can claim they're not directly targeting anyone. I prefer Apple's privacy focus…

>If you like Google using your personal photos for machine learning, that's your option.

It's a trade-off between getting the features I need and the price I have to pay. All else being equal I do prefer privacy as well. Unfortunately, all else is not equal.

>I prefer Apple's privacy focused option myself.

It's only an option if it works.

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Post by monooso »

tivert wrote: post #408
throw0101d wrote: post #394

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> On the other hand, people who laughed at them removing the 3.5mm jack can still safely laugh away. Then laugh at Samsung and their flagship line of phones as well, since they haven't had headphone jacks for a while now. "After Note 10 dumps headphone jack, Samsung ads mocking iPhone dongles disappear" (2019): * https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/after-removing-headphone-ja... "Samsung is hiding its ads that made fun…

>> On the other hand, people who laughed at them removing the 3.5mm jack can still safely laugh away. > Then laugh at Samsung and their flagship line of phones as well, since they haven't had headphone jacks for a while now. "After Note 10 dumps headphone jack, Samsung ads mocking iPhone dongles disappear" (2019): I totally do. One of the problems with Apple is the industry seems to mindlessly ape their good and bad…

> One of the problems with Apple is the industry seems to mindlessly ape their good and bad decisions...

That's not a problem with Apple.

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