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When do we stop finding new music?

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Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by erikbye »

goosejuice wrote: post #393
lapcat wrote: post #168

I find it interesting that GenZ and Millennials show a much smaller preference for their own decade's music. https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_pr... The 1980s are still doing quite well among all but the oldest generation. Is it possible that music may actually be getting worse? Corporatized, consolidated, computerized. Look at Hollywood now too: everything is a sequel, prequel, remake, reboot…

Music is absolutely not getting worse unless you're only considering top charting music which is such a small fraction of what's out there. Even then it's highly subjective and behind almost every one of those songs or albums is a handful of brilliant writers, producers and session musicians you probably never heard of. I'd say it's never been better. Music is more accessible which means more folks get exposed to it…

Of course, it's extremely subjective, but how about naming a few artists who have appeared in the last few years that you think make better music and are more talented musicians than those who came before?

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Post by Jipazgqmnm »

dudefeliciano wrote: post #414
r1b wrote: post #175

Outlier here (musician, spend hours per week trying to find new music) - some thoughts: - The search space for music is really large and noisy. Most of the stuff out there isn’t very good, and the stuff that is good isn’t always discoverable with a single strategy - The best strategies almost always exploit human connections Some strategies I use: - Spatial locality, who is performing with or near artists that I like…

> there is a freeform radio station near me do you have any suggestions for similar online radio stations or playlists?

- https://radioparadise.com/ (!)

- https://fip.fr

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by inopinatus »

The unstated underlying assumption that only a commercially constructed popular zeitgeist qualifies as “new” for self-discovery purposes is corporate lickspittle fawning at its most conceited.

The author also appears to trip over the ecological fallacy in responding to population results as though they apply to themselves the individual. They do not. This is broad information of interest to anthropologists and marketing droids, it doesn’t define or describe a person.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by Terr_ »

I wish there was a music service that actually provided recommendations based on features of the track itself, like similar chords, tempo, rhythmic composition, emotional tone, etc.

Instead it all seems to be variations on "people who liked this also like", which--while obviously easier to code--is rather disappointing compared to what I thought we'd have by now.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by john61 »

> When do we stop finding new music?

for me never. The older I get I find more interesting new music. Maybe because I play an instrument and live in a very diverse and rich physical cultural context, not in a playlist or AI generated content.

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Post by yobbo »

wodenokoto wrote: post #424
cesaref wrote: post #389

The useful metric with these sorts of things is to ask yourself, when was the last time you tried something that you didn't like? For expensive experiences, say, going to the theatre, it's hard to see shows you don't think you are going to like, as the price pressure makes you choose 'safe bets' as the cost/reward is somewhat weighted in one direction. For something like music, the above used to be the case, as typic…

I think it is the reverse. 20-30 years ago, you'd listen to radio or MTV a lot more. They would introduce you to music outside "your tribe" of virtue of having to play a little bit of every genre that's popular. Back then, I'd say investing in a album was always safe, not because you went to the record store and asked for a new rock album, because you had heard 1 or 2 singles (unwillingly) and read a review (willingl…

> you'd listen to radio or MTV a lot more

The selection in these channels was the tribe back then. They were the "bottleneck" of pop culture.

From around 2000 with broadband etc, "payola" (broadcasters being coerced by record companies to play their flagship songs "in heavy rotation") is less and less effective.

As a consequence, I think the "current fashion" of music seems less defined.

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Post by inopinatus »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #106

I must be some sort of freak. I grew up in the 60’s and 70’s listening to classic rock, and a lot of it I can’t even stand any more due to the incredibly small playlists that most classic rock stations use. In my 20’s I started listening to a lot of classical and then jazz. In the 90’s a lot of grunge which’s I still love. After that was trance in the 2000’s, then ambient, techno and IDM after that. I still listen to…

Statistics are not descriptive of an individual. This data should not be used to make boundary assertions about anyone’s actual preferences.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by inopinatus »

Terr_ wrote: post #434

I wish there was a music service that actually provided recommendations based on features of the track itself, like similar chords, tempo, rhythmic composition, emotional tone, etc. Instead it all seems to be variations on "people who liked this also like", which--while obviously easier to code--is rather disappointing compared to what I thought we'd have by now.

I only have one criteria and it is “high production values”. After that I have no century or genre constraints. So far there is no recommendation algorithm up to the task.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by rawoke083600 »

I've found two somewhat surprising effective ways for new music discovery:

1. Spotify Weekly Discover (personalized) ~ Still can't work their silly UX, but their recomms are good. Is it time yet for "Bring Your Own Client" to their API ??

2. Online Communities: Many a twitch streamer has music bots or accept music request while streaming. Has been a great source for new discovery.

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