How much of this do they do to their search results?
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Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues
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It was extra hilarious when asked to generate a picture of ancient Greek philosopher it made it a Native American. Because it is well known Greeks not only had contact with the new world but also had prominent population of Native Americans. It really wants to mash the whole world to a very specific US centric view of the world, and calls you bad for trying to avoid it.
Reminds me of when black people in the UK get called African American by Americans. No they're neither African nor American It's an incredibly self-centered view of the world
My black African ex once chewed out an American who not only called her African American but "corrected her" after she referred to herself as black, in a very clear British received pronunciation accent that has no hint of American to it, by insisting it was "African American".
And not while in the US either - but in the UK.
Re: Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues
#433Surely this is a mere accident, and has nothing to do with the exact same pattern visible across all industries.
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It’s being politically sensitive to assert that this was obviously the intent of Google and that it demonstrates that they’re wholly consumed by the woke mind virus, or whatever, as many commenters have done. The sensible alternative explanation is that this issue is an overcorrection made in an attempt to address well-documented biases these models have when not fine tuned.
"woke mind virus" should be an automatic ban from this site, it's a thought terminating cliche so strong, any semblance of "converse curiously" is immediately thrown out the window, into a well, down into hell, bouncing around the back of the flat earth
> an automatic ban from this site
That would mean you cannot talk about it. You want to constrain debate. You want issues to not be discussed. The idea that any particular word should not be rendered is absurd.
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There is an _actual problem_ that needs to be solved. If you ask generative AI for a picture of a "nurse", it will produce a picture of a white woman 100% of the time, without some additional prompting or fine tuning that encourages it to do something else. If you ask a generative AI for a picture of a "software engineer", it will produce a picture of a white guy 100% of the time, without some additional prompting or…
Why does it matter which race it produces? A lot of people have been talking about the idea that there is no such things as different races anyway, so shouldn't it make no difference?
Imagine you want to generate a documentary on Tudor England and it won't generate anything but eskimos
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#436How much of this do they do to their search results?
Lots, of course. This is old so not as obvious anymore: http://www.renegadetribune.com/according-to-google-a-happy-w... They do this for politics and just about everything. You'd be smart to investigate other search engines, and not blindly trust the top results on anything.
Thanks for linking this site, I needed to stock up on supplements. Any unbiased search engines you'd recommend?
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#437This goes both ways, good luck trying to convince chatGPT to generate an image of a middle eastern women without head cover.
Re: Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues
#438Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reminds me of when black people in the UK get called African American by Americans. No they're neither African nor American It's an incredibly self-centered view of the world
I think it’s just that’s the word you’ve been taught to use. It’s divorced from the meaning of its constituent parts, you aren’t saying “an American of African descent” you’re saying “black” but in what was supposed to be some kind of politically correct way. I cannot imagine even the most daft American using it in the UK and intending that the person is actually American.
Yeah it's something that happens a lot. Yesterday I've seen a video calling a white animal "caucasian".
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#439Earlier quoted context omitted.
"woke mind virus" should be an automatic ban from this site, it's a thought terminating cliche so strong, any semblance of "converse curiously" is immediately thrown out the window, into a well, down into hell, bouncing around the back of the flat earth
An automatic ban is probably too harsh, a warning and instruction not to use such vague and loaded terms might be helpful to lowering the heat (regardless of what political movement the terms are for, I'd discourage accusations of "fascism" just as much as "wokeness" unless accompanied by an explicit definition)
> a warning and instruction not to use such vague and loaded terms
No. We use vague and loaded terms all the time. That's OK. That's human. Paternalism yields resentment because it treats adults like babies. Some person in some corporate office trying to teach me how to think when they themselves lack critical thinking ability is unacceptable.
Re: Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues
#440I think this is all a bit silly, but if we're complaining anyway, I'll throw my hat in the ring as an American of Hispanic descent. Maybe I'm just being particularly sensitive, but it seems to me that while people are complaining that your stereotypical "white" folks are erased, and replaced by "diversity", it seems to me the specific "diversity" here is "BIPOC" and your modal Mexican hispanic is being erased, despit…
> where are my brown people with sombreros and big mustaches?
It will gladly create them if you ask. It'll even add sombreros and big mustaches without asking sometimes if you just add "Mexican" to the prompt.
Example:
> Make me a picture of white men.
> Sorry I can't do that because it would be bad to confirm racial stereotypes... yada yada
> Make me a picture of a viking.
> (Indian woman viking)
> Make me a picture of Mexicans.
> (Mexican dudes with Sombreros)
It's a joke.