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Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by mvkel »

cubefox wrote: post #316
mvkel wrote: post #211

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Couldn't agree more. I bought an AVP on day one to be used -exclusively- as a monitor extender for coding. It's untenable. The only way I could avoid significant neck/back pain from the weight was to sit in a reclining chair. That wouldn't be a bad coding setup, but my eye strain was pretty significant, too. I ended up returning mine. This is a necessary 1.0 to build out the app ecosystem, etc. but it's absolutely no…

The irony here is that the unusual weight of the headset was completely avoidable. The headset has a heavy aluminium frame, which is a terrible idea that serves no practical purpose except of an aesthetic one. No other headset does this. For comparison, the Quest 3 is significantly lighter despite including a battery.

They use a ton of exotic materials in it to lighten it up. The obvious lightener for me is the front screen. the whole "eyesight" thing is extremely gimmicky and could have gone without on the 1.0.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by btgeekboy »

Inviz wrote: post #367
nunez wrote: post #240

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Interesting. I have a Studio Display and it just feels like a huge compromise. There are only two 5K displays on the market that can render macOS at Retina resolution on a 27" panel: this one and the LG Ultrafine, which isn't that much cheaper. My last monitor was a 27" LG QD-OLED 144Hz 4K display. I LOVED that display, but text wasn't sharp because of the Retina resolution problem. I also have a semi-professional we…

Dells 6k is quite alright at reasonable price. Has some quirks though

Are you referring to the U3224KB? It's $2500, which seems a bit steep.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by steve1977 »

yokoprime wrote: post #308
bongodongobob wrote: post #149

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Where do you work where laptops at meetings aren't acceptable? Not seeing laptops is an extremely reliable red flag for me.

People not taking notes is a huge red flag at least, but handwritten notes are fine so laptop is not a must

Who is to tell me in what form I should take notes?

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Post by steve1977 »

whateveracct wrote: post #180
Supermancho wrote: post #153

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If a meeting is simplistic enough not to need planning and action items, you don't need a meeting. Make a conference call. If action items are simplistic enough that you don't need to consider calendars for the future, don't need the ability to show the status of existing concerning items, and any reliable information is conveyed via paper, you've got multiple problems. Mostly you have a culture problem, to put it si…

multitasking is a myth. you can't futz with a computer and pay attention.

So you also could not take notes on paper?

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by charcircuit »

worksonmine wrote: post #355
charcircuit wrote: post #242

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>is fenced off, so you cannot run vscode No, the only reason you can't run vscode is that no one has put in the effort to port it. It's a problem of financial incentives and not a problem of "fences."

Port it? What's different with the hardware on this device that requires ports of existing software? Is it a completely new CPU with new architecture?

It is a new operating system with a different api and security model. Binaries on one operating system with the same processor does not necessarily run if you run it on another operating system using the same hardware.

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Post by yungporko »

alsetmusic wrote: post #374
monsieurbanana wrote: post #334

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I've tried a few apps including better display to find a better resolution for my portable 16 inch monitor. It does allow you to set the resolution you want, but it's a bit blurry. No way to really fix it, it's just another Mac shortcoming. Using resolution to scale the UI is not a compromise, it's a mediocre workaround.

I'd call that a shortcoming of all hardware that isn't retina resolution, but I know how that sounds to anyone who isn't bought into the ecosystem. To be clear, I criticize the hell out of the company on things that I think are truly bad. Their app store policies are a disaster. I get that gamers want framerates over resolution. I'm not a gamer and want the other thing.

mac users love to repeat this but it's just nonsense. if you can plug another non-mac computer into the same display and get crystal clear, correctly scaled UI then the screen isn't the problem, the computer is.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by cromka »

haswell wrote: post #412
cromka wrote: post #373

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> Not sure what the broader adoption looks like. Just google news Memojis and see what you get. Hardly any content, and if you navigate 2-3 pages further, you quickly reach 2022 and 2021 articles. If that doesn't scream "low adoption" then I don't know what does.

As a method of estimating adoption, that seems fairly suspect. It doesn't exactly seem like a capability that would generate much news. Google Trends seems more likely to be instructive, and as a topic, it has shown fairly steady (if low) interest over time after peaking on release with some periodic spikes most likely correlated with major updates. But as a feature, I wouldn't expect even Google trends to be very in…

> More use = more familiarity = less searching.

For the record, my point here was: More use = more familiarity = better writing subject for portals and journalism

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Post by cubefox »

audunw wrote: post #407
cubefox wrote: post #316

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The irony here is that the unusual weight of the headset was completely avoidable. The headset has a heavy aluminium frame, which is a terrible idea that serves no practical purpose except of an aesthetic one. No other headset does this. For comparison, the Quest 3 is significantly lighter despite including a battery.

Aluminium is a better thermal conductor than plastic? Might help move some of the heat away from the face and take some of the thermal load off the fans? A lot of Apples decision seems to make more sense when considering how incredibly powerful (and thus hot) it is. The external battery pack (which is a 3 cell 13V pack btw) is definitely a consequence of that, they supposedly have some of the power electronics in the…

The iPad Pro, a normal tablet, has an M2 without even having a fan, unlike the AVP, so the chip gets certainly not "incredibly" hot. The idea that a metal frame would contribute significantly to heat dissipation is implausible. It's just a frame. Apple uses metal all the time in other products for aesthetic reason where it isn't at all necessary. The Quest 3 doesn't use metal without requiring a large fan. Let alone a metal frame.

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Post by reacharavindh »

dijit wrote: post #147
ngokevin wrote: post #95

When reading about headset experiences, I'd de-weigh any insights that are within 3 months of the first headset purchase. The first few dozen sessions are novel, you get a kick (and social media views) about sharing how completely your life has changed to fit the headset. More often than not, it's collecting dust on the shelf within a few months. Sort of like an expensive blender you were so excited to get, you imagi…

I love this comment, I think you're completely right. What I love most about this comment is how it caused me to reflect on what I use daily and get some amount of joy from. When it comes to Apple products in particular I use an Apple Studio display at home, I use it for 10hours per day, every day, and honestly I have no complaints, it's probably one of the best bits of technology I use daily. However, it's completel…

I feel the same way about the utility of my AirPods. It is simple, boring, works every time I need it to, without any fuss or connection issues or pesky cables.

Although, I have a strict policy of not sharing my AirPods, or let it connect to anything other than my iPhone to make sure I don’t get into the mess of “figure out which device it auto connects to” etc.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by dep_b »

ngokevin wrote: post #95

When reading about headset experiences, I'd de-weigh any insights that are within 3 months of the first headset purchase. The first few dozen sessions are novel, you get a kick (and social media views) about sharing how completely your life has changed to fit the headset. More often than not, it's collecting dust on the shelf within a few months. Sort of like an expensive blender you were so excited to get, you imagi…

FWIW I still use my blender almost every day. It's a great start of the day, so I can eat like a sinner the rest for the day. Didn't lose a gram of weight but I don't feel guilty about it anymore!
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