Android should a framework for AI entry points / control of apps. Finally AI assistants would become useful.
Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#432Earlier quoted context omitted.
Finally some actual relevant criticism in this thread. You’re spot on. Google is deep into “shipping the org chart”. As such, I would be worried too that different products conflict with each other. It’s funny that Google can design and operationalize the most incredible engineering marvels, but can’t explain their products (and in particular how they interact with each other).
How is this shipping an org chart? It's combining products built by different parts of the company into a single subscription which seems like the opposite.
Yes, that’s what they’re telling you. However, in reality there is a lot of friction and/or confusion about how different products interact. I’m not saying this particular combination works one way or another, only that it’s extremely hard to understand the consumer product offerings compared to Amazon, Apple and arguably even Microsoft. It’s well known that Google has a marketing problem – people don’t even know what they offer.
The interface that sits on top and is supposed to give you some overview and coherence is bolted on with duct tape after-the-fact. Now, it’s possible this has changed since I worked there but I highly doubt that it’s all ironed out.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#433In the 20 minutes of experimentation, I'm really impressed with the quality of Bard Advanced (Gemini Ultra). The results are as good as GPT-4, and in some cases is better. So far: pros: - better at translation (tried Chinese and Japanese idioms to English) - better at incorporating search results in its answer vs gpt-4 bing cons: - slightly worse at coding - censorship is more annoying (have to ask multiple times abo…
Also as time goes by, it'll get smoothly integrated into docs/gmail/maps/calendar/youtube/search/colab/sheets/android/assistant So Gemini could by your one-stop AI shop for everything. Only Microsoft can match it (but Microsoft doesn't have a popular maps, youtube, mail, smartphone OS service). Apple is another strong player (but they don't have productivity tools like docs, sheets or youtube). It really is Google's…
Good comments. As much as I am personally engaged in small LLMs that I can run on my own computer, and integrate into software that I write for myself, I think the future of large scale adoption of AI belongs to Google, Microsoft, and Apple in western countries (and China is doing wonderful things in their markets).
The old Bard/Gemini integration with Gmail, Google Docs, etc. is pretty good. I signed up for a minute for Microsoft’s $20/month AI Office integrations, but cancelled and will try again in 2 months. I am an Apple customer and I expect spectacular things from Apple. I expect Apple, Google, Samsung, etc., to offer fantastic on device AI.
I would like to see a money saving Google bundling family plan. I find Apple’s super bundle family plan a pretty good deal.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#434Did I get this right? Bard – old name of their generative AI service, to be called Gemini Duet AI – old name for their generative AI in Google Workspace, to be called Gemini Gemini – three things: 1. the name of their models (like GPT). 2. the new name of their free service (like ChatGPT), gives access to Pro 1.0 but not Ultra 1.0. 3. the new name of the Generative AI tools in Google Workspace. Gemini Advanced – the…
rebranding to Gemini was the right move IMHO and should've been done before the Bard branding. What do you want instead? "Google Assistant with Bard on Gemini Ultra 2" ? I'd prefer the "Google Gemini" branding better
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#435"Sorry, Gemini Advanced isn't available for you" "Gemini Advanced is not yet available in some countries, for work accounts, or for users under a certain age." Learn more: https://login.corp.google.com/request?s=support.corp.google....
AI summary isn't even available on my Pixel 8 Pro. I have little hope of using Gemini in Q1.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#436Damn. Even more censored than GPT. My gf is a model and I use GPT all the time to write the alt text descriptions of her photos, but it balks regularly on things like lingerie photos. Same crap with Gemini:
"Sorry I can't help with that image. Try uploading another image or describing the image you tried to upload and I can help you that way."
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#437The anecdata here suggests that Gemini Ultra is marginally to moderately worse than GPT-4 at some prompts despite launching roughly a year later with an entrenched player to compare against. It also seemingly is more censored.
I don't think Google is structured well-enough to actually compete in a novel space, the politics and especially the inertia around AI-safetyism that has slowed Google down in the past will continue to slow them down. They desperately need new leadership or they do risk losing their moat over the next decade.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#438Did I get this right? Bard – old name of their generative AI service, to be called Gemini Duet AI – old name for their generative AI in Google Workspace, to be called Gemini Gemini – three things: 1. the name of their models (like GPT). 2. the new name of their free service (like ChatGPT), gives access to Pro 1.0 but not Ultra 1.0. 3. the new name of the Generative AI tools in Google Workspace. Gemini Advanced – the…
It’s sad that a company of very smart people can’t figure out coherent naming. Can you imagine Apple causing confusion like this? I know it’s not a like-for-like comparison, but everything Apple does it seems like they have a grand strategy that’s clear for everyone to see. Things build up in a modular way to fit a big puzzle. Google, on the other hand, constantly makes up things on an ad hoc basis.
The naming on iPhones and Macbooks is terrible, and confusing now that the M3 Pro offers quite different CPU and bandwidth limits compared to M2 Pro...
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#439I’ve been pretty excited to finally try Gemini advanced. So far pretty disappointed. Here’s my go-to test question - which even chat gpt 3.5 can get. Question: I walk up to a glass door. It has the word push on it in mirror writing. Should I push or pull the door, and why Gemini advanced: You should push the door. Here's why: * Mirror Writing: The word "PUSH" is written in mirror writing, meaning it would appear corr…
In this context,
is it that the training data had this problem?
or that the training data had some semblance of the problem that is semantically linked to?
or is it that the training data has no mention of this, and the model came up with a perfectly logical answer??
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#440Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s sad that a company of very smart people can’t figure out coherent naming. Can you imagine Apple causing confusion like this? I know it’s not a like-for-like comparison, but everything Apple does it seems like they have a grand strategy that’s clear for everyone to see. Things build up in a modular way to fit a big puzzle. Google, on the other hand, constantly makes up things on an ad hoc basis.
Maybe not quite the same, but I will point out that “Apple TV” and “Apple TV+” are not just two distinct products, but are in fact entirely different categories of product. One is a piece of hardware akin to a Roku. The other is a streaming service akin to Netflix.
Hello, would you like to watch Apple TV+ or Apple TV Channels on your Apple TV app on your Apple TV?